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07 Feb 2021 18:59:08
Think pep Guardiola shows how football should be played and that you have to adapt to systems.
No striker at all but talent shines through.
You keep the ball use it well and it has a positive outcome.

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07 Feb 2021 19:34:25
If only Forest had manager so daring.

07 Feb 2021 19:43:51
But the quality of player needed to play that type of system successfully is beyond all but a handful of clubs in the world, wonder how he would get in at an average championship club, a spoon fed football person who has only played for and managed they worlds richest clubs,

07 Feb 2021 19:56:58
Stevie f if you do not try to implement it you can not know for sure.

A player does not find a brain once he plays in a top league.

It does not have to be him just someone up and coming, or anyone with the guts to try it.

07 Feb 2021 20:15:10
He has been there for 4 years and took over a premiership winning team. Our managers take over a mid table (if I being positive) and are given 8 months.

07 Feb 2021 20:20:22
If I had Guardiolas limitless wealth to spend I reckon I could get Bulwell Town into the Champions League!

07 Feb 2021 20:21:09
No disrespect to Bulwell Town I played a few times for them back in the day.

07 Feb 2021 20:21:39
Get forward city have spent about a billion for the privilege of being able to play like that, and Barca, And Bayern had a crop of great players, trying to play like that with average players would be football suicide, average players give the ball away too often,

07 Feb 2021 20:24:18
No what your saying stevie.
But is it?
If you bring up young players playing that style then its second nature.
My view is we coach these kids to death at an early age and concentrate too much on the defensive side of the game.
Im honest in my view of hughton as i don't like his football and never will as with karanka.
To me we have an academy run very well by gary brazil who has a different and more forward thinking way of how we play than hughton or karanka.
We need a manager that can work with him and the kids will be ready to play the brand they are used to, not i'm scared to play?

07 Feb 2021 20:39:13
Really good statement Forest.

07 Feb 2021 20:55:01
Stevieyou know pep would do well whatever the circumstances.
But why take a poor paid job when your very good at what you do?
Do you think hughton would be such a success at man city?
No he wouldn't despite the riches.

07 Feb 2021 20:56:13
I agree great sentiment, but in the real world in never happens.

07 Feb 2021 21:16:25
No reason for it not to stevie.
Brentford have shown a small club can compete if you get everyone on side and play good football aswell.

07 Feb 2021 21:33:44
Jose mourinho also spent millions and his teams are always boring, it’s down to the manager how a team tries to play.

07 Feb 2021 22:27:42
Spurs spending is hardly comparable to city’s over recent years.

08 Feb 2021 10:30:23
He has managed Chelsea twice, Real Madrid, and so on, i'm sure at least one of his many clubs gave him a shed load of cash, grasping at straws there Stevie f.

08 Feb 2021 10:42:12
Grasping at straws? mourinho like him or not has won the champions league with 3different clubs,

08 Feb 2021 11:35:23
I could understand Mourinho has been a successful manager of that there is no doubt, but why have you brought that into the subject.

The original subject from your point of view was you need loads of money to get a team to play good football, to which oakhamred mentioned Mourinho has spent millions while in management yet his teams play boring football.

Mourinho while at Porto you can say he had little money to spend compared to many other teams, including Man Utd which Porto beat in one of the finals so there you could argue boring football backs theory.

Mourinho though had shed loads of cash at least one club he has been at, so why the boring football? Could it be it is the way he wants his teams to play?

Money was not a problem after all, was it?

08 Feb 2021 17:59:46
Surely its a peoven fact you can buy the league. To quote clough on saying he and Taylor could never win the league in his latter days. Blackburn started it with shearer, sutton jock at the back (not saying his name after Saturday) grrrrr.

08 Feb 2021 18:32:29
Bowiered.

What Stevie f has suggested is, if you want good football a manager needs a shed load of cash, and the only reason ours does not get Forest to play good football is the lack of cash.

Oakhamred then mentioned Mourinho had has had a lot of money in his managerial career but still got his teams to play boring football.

Effectively managers rarely let the amount of money available decide the way their teams play.

08 Feb 2021 19:43:24
Get forward you and bowiered brought mourinho Into the debate not me.

08 Feb 2021 20:42:25
Im not saying its easy to win the league with cash get forward, (look at Lampard, my mates a chelsea fan warned him he'd be clueless. Served no apprenticeship. (The sheep actually had a few decent players) and i understand with hughton. We flooded forest with unwanted players. For pittance. apart from pass back greedy t#@t silly wages and crap.

08 Feb 2021 20:42:55
Oakhamred brought up Mourinho Stevie f.

That was to show managers can have money galore but tend to stick to whichever type of football they like to have their teams play.

You Stevie f then said Mourinho at Spurs had not had the same sort of money as City has had.

I then pointed out when he had money by the shed load at other clubs he never changed the style of play he got his teams to play.

Managers if inclined to get their teams to play good football will try to do so regardless of money available to them.

08 Feb 2021 21:03:39
Bowiered.

I did not think you were, money does not guarantee success but when a manager knows his stuff money has to make it easier.

Lampard as you say had not managed before.

Lampard used some young players and had got his team quite good football and did a pretty good job.

08 Feb 2021 21:03:47
I stand corrected on who brought up mourinho, but I have never said without money you have to play boring football, what I said was to play the dominant possession passing football city play, you need world class players, who nowadays cost hundreds of millions.

08 Feb 2021 21:54:25
What about Bournemouth, they did a good job of possession football.

08 Feb 2021 22:05:45
But won nothing,

09 Feb 2021 10:24:50
Got promoted from the Championship with at least a hundred points, so it can be done in the Championship.







 

 

 
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