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15 Dec 2020 11:40:34
Harry Arter did not cost milions Rutland. Bournemouth wanted him off the wage bill because he wasn't playing much. They rewarded the player for his good service by allowing him to move to Forest for a reasonable fee as he could go on a free at the end of the season anyway.

Forest might have an overactive transfer policy inwards and underactive one for players leaving but they aren't that stupid.

It is puzzling as to why they needed to replace an aging Ben Watson with two senior DMs though. They are supposed to be developing Marcus McGuane.

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15 Dec 2020 11:51:10
According to Who Scored, Arter is 11th on a list of Forest’s best passers, attempting just 340 from his 12 appearances.

He’s not really proved his worth in a defensive sense either, making just five interceptions all season. For context, Jack Colback, the man blamed for Forest’s midfield issues prior to his injury, is second on that list with 27 for the season. Cyrus Christie - who starts nearly every game - sits top on 32.

So why not play Mighten instead if Arter isn't contributing much in defence? Or switch to three at the back and play to the strengths of Rebeiro/ Iounnou and Christie? Forest do have options. We just don't have the courage to use them.

15 Dec 2020 12:18:19
Thanks for the insight redcyclist. Its seems then down to a lack of professionalism at the club.

15 Dec 2020 12:45:47
RedCyclist have you compared both Arter and Colback's time playing to amass those interceptions.

Have you compared both of their passes that advanced the team up the pitch, and how far the teams advanced as a result of their passes.

Have you also compared Colback's and Arter's stats to players in any other team that are paid much less.

15 Dec 2020 13:08:37
How sad to be nervous about playing a lower club in the middle of December. But i am 😔.

15 Dec 2020 13:29:13
Red were is your source of information regarding the fee for Arter? my source of £4.95m or 5.5m euro's is from probably the leading transfer market website on the net and why would they lie, All the players fee's I posted earlier add up so I have no reason to believe that this is not true unless you know something I don't.

15 Dec 2020 13:43:54
They were both not needed as we had sow yeats.
Waste of money especially on their wages.

15 Dec 2020 14:10:38
Quick check on infogol (Championship appearnaces this season only) :

Pass Success: 88%
Completed passes per minute: 0.4
Tackle success: 69%
Successful tackles per 90 mins: 2.65

Pass Success: 85%
Completed passes per minute: 0.38
Tackle success: 55%
Successful tackles per 90 mins: 2.1

Colback is better on ALL DEFENSIVE stats. It also wasn't really my point comparing the attacking contribution of Artur and Colback. My point was if he isn't contributing a lot defensively (as DM) then play an attacking player instead.

The fee for Artur on TransferMarkt is nonsense. The fee was undisclosed by both clubs. So yes, they are lying in that they don't know the fee.

15 Dec 2020 15:07:36
Arter is more mobile than Colback and does play the odd forward pass, the stats don't tell you how many passes have gone sideways or backwards, both poor signing's IMO, Bournemouth new Arter had had his day and wasn't going to get a game in the championship so they cashed in on him, it wouldn't surprise me that the fee we paid was totally over the top but let's leave it at that unless someone else on here can shed any light on the matter.

15 Dec 2020 15:34:33
So Red that's 2 sites claiming near enough the same amount of money we paid, on football whispers site the fee for Arter was said to be in the region of £5.5m I really hope they're all wrong, so my 500k valuation looks well off the mark.

15 Dec 2020 15:52:57
At the end of it all, Forest have too many over paid players and too many other clubs got rich off Forest for their scraps.



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