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06 Dec 2023 08:55:02
Some facts I learnt last night
1. SC does not get on with Marakanis - no surprise there. I suspect 8/ 10 players coming to the club are not his choice
2. Graham Potter will be the next Forest manager.
17 Sep 2021 09:51:08
Our new manager is Steve Cooper? How do I know? Well all I can say is that he has been seen yesterday looking at a house.
1.) 17 Sep 2021 10:18:17
I doesn't matter who our next manager is and I think it's about time people stop blaming the managers.
The club has been a shambles for a long time now and it's clear to me where the problem truly lies.
MARINAKIS OUT!
2.) 17 Sep 2021 11:06:29
Tomo, mate, sadly without Marinakos there wouldn’t be Forest to support . We’d be defunct except for some glorious pages in the history books. Sometimes you have to sup with the devil to survive. 😕.
3.) 17 Sep 2021 12:00:59
I hope he's only looking at short term rental properties Doc.
4.) 17 Sep 2021 16:34:55
Marinakis is keeping the club alive. Be careful what you wish for.
16 Sep 2021 07:19:00
Allegedly Steve Cooper and Alex Neil are in the melting pot . If it's true both will be trying to negotiate for control of player transfers . This is the problem not paying off CH . Big M is not in control, it's the myriad of people in between all wanting to have a finger in the pie . The club is undergoing a slow death due to their decision to sign player after player with 0 pedigree. We will not get either Cooper or Neil if the managers role is simply a coach . I.
1.) 16 Sep 2021 08:27:53
Don’t want any of them underperforming idiots, frying pan, fire.
2.) 16 Sep 2021 08:31:40
Alex Neil was at the game last night. Seems odd that he would come to watch dreary Wednesday game at the CG.
3.) 16 Sep 2021 09:34:47
Noooo! Please NO!
4.) 16 Sep 2021 10:35:23
With you perko, nooo nooo nooo to either. I would rather have clough and pearce. Now that would sort this lot out.
19 May 2021 15:22:08
The successful teams next session will have a nucleus of players who have played together at least one season before . So we have McKenna Worrall and maybe Lawrence Gabriel . So maybe a new left back. Midfield we have Yates and Cafu ( Cafu got a contract last season so someone thinks he is good ) . I guess Brennan Mighten to develop further. So we need a midfield dynamo plus a winger and a forward or two.
1.) 19 May 2021 20:59:54
We need a manager first I'm worried who he will bring in with his tactics.
2.) 19 May 2021 21:02:09
Cafu is a nowhere player. I simply cannot see where his strengths lie. He can't tackle can't head can't shoot, is slow, and his passing forward shocking. get rid.
3.) 19 May 2021 21:54:02
But apart from that, he’s a fantastic player 😂.
4.) 20 May 2021 06:39:18
Perko lol sometimes he did quite well just poncing around looking a little tidy. But when you wear gloves when there's a nip in the air and your meant to be gritty midfielder, you have to be special. Average with NO end product, we need much much better players.
{Ed014's Note - I thought for a minute there you were talking about Paul Pogba! 🤣
5.) 20 May 2021 11:00:14
Agreed Rutland, not good enough. Think he was given a two year contract aswell, who makes these decisions. He offers nothing.
6.) 23 May 2021 20:18:22
Apart from Garner the whole midfield are dross. Get rid of the lot and start again.
7.) 28 May 2021 22:18:41
Id still keep sammy for the bench. Don't care what you lot think. He can change a game, pass or shot. On little wages. Looks lazy and can be. But one of the only players apart from garner sadly i thought could change a game from midfield. Just saying.
8.) 29 May 2021 12:00:01
I’ve got no problem keeping ameobi Bowie, just wish he could unplat his feet and learn to cross a ball.
10 May 2021 21:58:08
Can no one in the FA see the stupidity of the current arrangements between the bottom of the premier league and the Championship. It is an utter disgrace that teams are allowed to yo yo between leagues whilst teams like Brentford have to fight in the playoffs. What's the betting that WBA and Fulham will be promoted next season!
Ed The parachute payments they got season before last surely they don't get again .
{Ed002's Note - They do indeed get them paid again and I agree the system is unfair and the money should be spread out differently but the argument is based on the disparity of income between the two divisions could adversely impact the relegated side - there have been a few examples of clubs falling away in the past.}
1.) 11 May 2021 09:51:36
I think clubs fall way because the chairman takes out after the visit to the prem.
2.) 11 May 2021 14:34:06
The parachute payments are too big and last for too long.
The way forward is to lower the size of the payouts and only one second year at a lower rate to give teams time to reduce their wage bill etc. The clubs will still have an advantage from being able to buy lotts of decent players when in the Prem but will have to release some.
Problem solved. Except it is the Prem clubs who vote on the rules, so they won't change.
3.) 11 May 2021 18:53:48
Surely relegation is there as a punishment for not being good enough, as for a club being adversely affected, clubs need to do what we the general public have to do to when we have financial difficulties, cut their cloth accordingly.
4.) 12 May 2021 11:15:40
If clubs didn't spunk tens of millions after promotion in a desperate attempt to stay in the promised land then they wouldn't need parachute payments. All parachute payments do right now is allow clubs to be more reckless when they go up. They need to be stopped or heavily reduced, especially since the introduction of FFP.
As said above, I can see WBA and Fulham being clear favourites to go straight back up.
5.) 12 May 2021 17:44:44
I think what's wrong as well is that the parachute payment doesn't count towards ffp. Basically a double bonus.
6.) 12 May 2021 18:40:38
It would be better if the parachute payments were put in a pot that was shared out between all of the Championship and the relegated Premier league clubs based on their relative league position with the clubs relegated from championship missing out.
The concentration of cash in the yo - yo clubs is getting worse and as everyone is saying the three favourite next season to go up will be WBA, Fulham and Shef United. And the rest of the clubs cannot compete financial because of FFP.
I am afraid if they don't fix this then the championship will become predictable just like the premier league.
But I don't expect this will change.
7.) 13 May 2021 06:50:53
The EPL should mandate relegation clauses in player contracts reducing/ capping salaries. Some would demand relegation release clauses but that's fair enough. Promoted teams would find it slightly harder to compete in the prem, but they could redistribute parachute payments and make the EFL more competitive.
8.) 18 May 2021 16:58:12
Good post mctavish.
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15 Jan 2025 00:08:58
Does anyone think the Liverpool goal should not have counted? Gakpo deliberately obstructs Sels who is coming to punch the ball. Gakpo then appears to actually back into the goal keeper. Sels therefore misses the ball with his punch and it comes to Jiota who scores. Is this legitimate in today's football?
1.) 15 Jan 2025 09:14:58
Slight flick of Murillo's head too.
2.) 15 Jan 2025 09:16:02
Thought exactly the same. Since when has that been permitted?
3.) 15 Jan 2025 14:42:42
I thought it was a foul on Sells. The player is not obliged to move out of the keepers way but I thought he was actually grappling with him to prevent him getting to the ball. A foul in any other part of the pitch.
Corners are a shambles so it’s a difficult one for the ref. I don know if it was actually VARd. The replays I’ve just watched show a definate obstruction but there’s a lot going on in the box.
4.) 15 Jan 2025 15:12:04
Ed what is your opinion on Liverpools goal please.
{Ed001's Note - for some reason they are now allowed to block the keepers. Arsenal have been doing it all season, but I don't like it. There is a case for saying the fault is on the defensive team for bringing everyone back and making it a crowd scene though. Teams should leave players up so the attacking team hasn't got the bodies to block off the keeper.}
5.) 15 Jan 2025 20:32:12
Thanks Ed. Forest always bring all 11 back. If wood stayed up that would take two defenders out, if two stayed up three. Suddenly de congested penalty area.
11 Jan 2025 17:54:09
I am pleased both any sportsman who returns after a serious injury and in particular for Danillo today. However I can't see how he will get in the current side. Both Anderson, MGW and JWP are all ahead of Danillo even if he was at his best. He is obviously a very popular player with the fans.
1.) 11 Jan 2025 18:30:18
If we have a cup run, will be a lot of games between now and May. I'm sure he will get minutes. The whole squad has a part to play.
Would say this teams spirit, is one of it's strengths.
2.) 11 Jan 2025 20:14:40
Who knows with Danilo but he did start first game of the season so nuno obviously rates him, great reception he got
Another note getting in ground now is a p take with all the new security, there motto seems to be if it moves search it, old young man woman it's causing more problems than it solving
And as for the Bridgeford end fiasco today, ignore club statement it was virtually empty first half hour n I know people who missed whole first half.
3.) 12 Jan 2025 00:59:53
It happened last season when the tickets don’t sell out and go out in general sale, the club can’t really do much about people not knowing what time to enter the ground or how to get tickets up on their phones ??♂️ just keep winning and give some people things to moan about.
4.) 12 Jan 2025 08:35:28
Seriously 2tone, you believe the problem lies with tickets sold to the general public is the problem! So you think if I purchase a ticket on general sale I don't know how to get into the CG? Complaining about a breakdown in the system is not moaning, it's a legitimate complaint. The fact Forest have acknowledged their error and given an apology says it was nothing to do with the general sale of tickets to idiots who don't know how to get into the CG.
5.) 12 Jan 2025 10:02:42
Not a season ticket holder anymore so have to get tickets when I can. Bridgford end was not a fun experience as I missed MoK. However one memory that can back from where I was standing was watching Klinsman and Bayerns masterclass from 1/ 4 century ago. If we are not be humiliated in Europe we need a deep strong squad. B team played their hearts out yesterday and Nuno needs to keep them all.
6.) 12 Jan 2025 11:30:45
Targa I’m only going on what I’ve seen first hand but you know best.
7.) 12 Jan 2025 11:36:03
Just wait until the city ground goes all digital in 26-27season, and Russia cuts the internet god help us all.
8.) 12 Jan 2025 13:35:16
It doesn’t help when people who aren’t regulars turn up at five to three then spend 10 mins trying to get their tickets on their phone. Then once inside haven’t got a clue where they are sitting. The problem is these days people don’t spend enough time preparing, it’s not difficult just turn up 30 or 40 minutes before ko. And if you get in without any problem have a beer or just take in the atmosphere. Simple.
9.) 12 Jan 2025 18:20:25
2tone. I don't know best but what I do know is Forest have made an apology for their wrongdoing. They know they made an error and have stood up and said sorry. That has nothing to do with knowing best, being smarter than you, having inside info or anything else. Now if you acknowledge that Forest have said sorry then you too can see it had nothing to do with the general sale of tickets and fans not knowing how to get into the CG or any personal experience you may have witnessed, it is plain and simple a Forest error.
Exeter away in the cup. lovely I want that FA cup.
10.) 12 Jan 2025 19:07:27
Just cause we have Exeter in the cup doesn't make the game a bye. we still after turn up and win. and then we still have a long way to go to the final. fa. cup or top 4 for me a top 4 finish or both god if possible ? and also lads if you got yourself a fire stick there would be no arguments about tickets ????.
09 Jan 2025 07:33:02
The Reds will try, I believe to fight off City and Liverpool who will tempt our best players with a million a week offers. Most are on < 100, 000, except JWP. No one on this site, could deny if faced with such a staggering wage increase, they would accept. None of us want to see this, but it is the inevitable consequence of vulgar commercial interests in sport. Cynically I might feel the powerful four want to protect their interests and can afford to purchase our best players, so they can carry on with their snouts in the money trough
However I think Tuesday night will demonstrate a spirit within the club and fans not seen for a long time.
1.) 09 Jan 2025 09:18:20
I truly believe the only departures we will see are those we expect, Dennis, maybe Toff but maybe not, Obionekinobe, Obrien etc. Cannot see BigM or Nuno breaking up the harmony for any amount of money. BigM won't allow Forest to be a feeder club. Look at the outcome of clubs who are.
2.) 09 Jan 2025 09:32:42
They are our players under contract. We decide when they go. Simple.
I don't know why you bother reading the toils of desperate jurno's, under pressure to write a column. It a throw enough muck at the wall and some will stick scenario.
Just chill and save up for Europe ?.
3.) 09 Jan 2025 10:57:40
Balloons it’s been proven time and again if a player wants to go he goes simple as look at Rashford at Man Utd doesn’t want to fight for his place now training on his own
The player decides when he leaves simple as.
4.) 09 Jan 2025 11:23:54
Not with the togetherness in our squad munmad. You can see it there like a happy family ?.
5.) 09 Jan 2025 11:27:39
Don't agree munmad we are in a very good position in the league where players can go on to better things and probably win silverware. its not always about the money if I believe rashford turned down a deal to go to Saudi on 675 thousand a week he turned it down. I can't see any of our best players going anywhere untill summer and then that will all depend on European football or not. just relax and live the forest Nuno dream ?.
6.) 09 Jan 2025 11:55:55
You don’t seem to understand the influence of agents in modern football.
On Rashford he was never going to feel comfortable with the dreadful Sir Jim coming in to United.
CARLO.
7.) 09 Jan 2025 12:56:11
Why would anyone want to go and keep a seat warm, yes the money will be a draw but game time gets you noticed not sitting in the dugout. Balloons and Skeggs are right the big man has come this far, he’s not going to see it fall apart, not now.
8.) 09 Jan 2025 13:15:07
Carlo I don't really care about agents wether players want to go or not that's u to them we've bought some great players in and can do so again if they need replacing it's football and a business but for me I'm enjoying every minute as it is now i'm not trying to find doom and gloom in what could or couldn't happen in the future in Nuno and Mr m I trust enjoy ?.
05 Jan 2025 21:49:38
There are a lot of similarities between Forests upward direction and the lot down the road. If and only if we win tomorrow. We will the only team in the top 4 to do so. The Reds have a belief and it's getting stronger ie they cannot loose. Now everyone realises they cannot win every match until the end of the season but a win against Wolves and then Liverpool and we have one foot there. The Reds under Nuno have become a team that plays for each other and have a will to win. This will at some point I suspect come unstuck, but maybe that's next season or the one after. We have no pressure on us whatsoever, no distracting European matches either. With all around us faltering we can seize our chance.
1.) 05 Jan 2025 22:35:23
Doc? Unstuck or not? What you actually getting at. You believe or not is the tune from this site of late. You got to believe, as we did staying up from other leagues etc. For without that. You will never move forward with nothing. Tell ya that as if i was talking to the team. BELIEVE IN NUNO, BELIEVE IN THE PLAYERS, BELIEVE WE CAN DO WELL. FTID.
2.) 05 Jan 2025 22:54:07
Top post Doc.
3.) 06 Jan 2025 15:09:13
Yes, agreed, a sensible analysis Doc ?.
30 Dec 2024 08:47:55
The MGW goal I thought was 'sublime '. Worth watching again and again. He completely wrong footed Pickford and the defender and calmly slotted the ball home. If this had been Kane, Haaland or Salah, MoD would have been eulogising on their great abilities. MGW will captain England one day.
This Forest side is at the top because the team has a group of very talented players who each play for the other. Yesterday exemplified this.
1.) 30 Dec 2024 11:03:01
He is certainly playing himself in to form and is very important to the team. Loved the way he dropped deep for the first goal. Him and Anderson compliment each other.
I think Wood's finish was just as good. He just made it look so easy.
When he was dealing in inches.
Brilliant stuff.
2.) 30 Dec 2024 12:36:52
Had been waiting excitedly for my new Forest Car Pennant to arrive.
Talk about underwhelming!
My son innocently asked "Forest air freshener dad? "
???.
3.) 30 Dec 2024 13:15:09
You're right about MOTD Doc and their 'apparent'prejudice. The same for the Forest equalising goal against Man City which was a masterpiece and CHO's against Liverpool. Can you see the link?
4.) 30 Dec 2024 13:28:15
All great posts. Agree with all the previous posters. As for MOTD Norfolk mate I think Nuno prefers it that we stay humble and under the radar…. The BBC were proved wrong back in the day when Forest won the top division championship in their first season back under Clough. I like to see pundits choking on their own words ….
5.) 30 Dec 2024 14:55:32
Reading and listening to the pundits when asked will Forest finish in the top four, it's a resounding NO. It will make it all the more sweeter if we do?.
Negatives: picking up injuries to key players, we have a decent rest period before next game so hopefully sorted by then, newspaper talk about teams coming in for our players, I hope they keep focused, it definitely effected Elanga with the Newcastle interest.
Positive: Nuno, coaching staff, Players and the amazing support!. Definitely Positives.
6.) 30 Dec 2024 16:07:02
I think I remember it Stokey? Was it Jimmy Hill being condescending about Forest and reluctantly congratulating Clough, almost resentful. Did they play music at the end to a slo-mo cut of BC calmly walking off the pitch. It was a chart song. Forget todays subtle prejudice-they did not like the way Forest won it; and communicated such!
7.) 30 Dec 2024 18:35:00
I believe you are right Norfolk. I think only Motty ( bless him) talked Forest up in commentary as he realised what was happening at the WFCG ( but don’t rely on my memory, I ve just forgotten why I walked into the kitchen mate) ???.
8.) 30 Dec 2024 19:13:50
Amazing what you can remember from teen years when prompted. I'm tempted to present you with an impressive, cogent literary analogy, say from James Joyce, but I think not during the festive season!
And, yes, I forgot the semi-skimmed today.
(No prizes for guessing that we have people staying, so I'm out of the gassing areas)
02 Sep 2024 19:33:32
DTP I am with you I am afraid, atm. Your point re Williams and Ania negating the need for HO and Elanga. These latter two not heading for the line to centre to Wood but cutting inside, is loosing us chances and therefore matches.
Sanghera cannot be any better than OBrien, yet he stays the other goes. Jota and Sosa have energy, as does Yates. Jota and Yates were all over. Sadly, it was in 90 mins when Jota and Sosa were brought on. Where was Morena?
The style of Nuno play is identical to last season. We were so lucky that 3 teams were poorer than ours. Surely all fans, Big M included, hope for a better season ie a mid table finish. I cannot presently see that happening.
Folks on this site see the issues. We are armchair critics with very little knowledge, only watching players and noting positive and negatives. However, these points are made as we want our team to do well.
Nuno is being given a chance, but with the current second and third teams next away, it is likely we will gain no more points and then Fulham. This season we have a much better and more skillful squad. Let’s hope Nuno sees what we see and didn’t think on Saturday we could win. So therefore, he played a defensive hand. We need a manager who looks forward not backward all the time.
20 Dec 2023 10:23:46
I agree completely, we will be in free fall - championship - League 1.
16 Apr 2023 14:14:02
I don’t think a young inexperienced manager such as Gerrard or Viera have any chance of saving Forest, infact it’s frying pan into the fire. Who did Crystal Palace replace Viera with a 70 yr old. We would be better with a Sam A, Harry, or Benitez.
21 Jan 2023 17:23:41
Chris wood played like Glen Murray today - enough said.
16 Sep 2021 20:28:34
No it’s 1 m and he will save us from relegation.
15 Jan 2025 20:40:31
MM VAR should have called out a foul on Sels. All goals I believe are looked at by VAR. The referee asked and as quickly as you like he was told it was a goal. Yet it took me a few minutes to see exactly what was going on. Then you realise the VAR assistant is a ard ent Leicester City supporter, as always hated Forest and has never in 10 yrs given anything in our favour.
15 Jan 2025 20:32:12
Thanks Ed. Forest always bring all 11 back. If wood stayed up that would take two defenders out, if two stayed up three. Suddenly de congested penalty area.
15 Jan 2025 15:12:04
Ed what is your opinion on Liverpools goal please.
{Ed001's Note - for some reason they are now allowed to block the keepers. Arsenal have been doing it all season, but I don't like it. There is a case for saying the fault is on the defensive team for bringing everyone back and making it a crowd scene though. Teams should leave players up so the attacking team hasn't got the bodies to block off the keeper.}
12 Jan 2025 14:10:39
It is not fair on either Danillo ( match unfit ) to be picked over Yates. Anderson is not really a defensive midfielder but a no 10 but has to cope as he has MGW ahead of him. Danillo is not in the same league as both of these, but is a forward thinking not defensive player. Yates I would start over Dominguez but that is Nuno call. I know we are doing superbly well this season but against Liverpool even at home it would be a a back 3 with two wing backs and HO on the bench.
23 Dec 2024 20:32:40
SD interesting no one has hadany suggestions to who we should get, even if it was in their dreams. When Trevor Francis was signed I remember what an impact it had. As we are 4th and a number of talented players who may decide the grass is greener somewhere else. We have to do something or do we rely on Wood and Tiawo.