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19 May 2021 15:22:08
The successful teams next session will have a nucleus of players who have played together at least one season before . So we have McKenna Worrall and maybe Lawrence Gabriel . So maybe a new left back. Midfield we have Yates and Cafu ( Cafu got a contract last season so someone thinks he is good ) . I guess Brennan Mighten to develop further. So we need a midfield dynamo plus a winger and a forward or two.

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1.) 19 May 2021 20:59:54
We need a manager first I'm worried who he will bring in with his tactics.

2.) 19 May 2021 21:02:09
Cafu is a nowhere player. I simply cannot see where his strengths lie. He can't tackle can't head can't shoot, is slow, and his passing forward shocking. get rid.

3.) 19 May 2021 21:54:02
But apart from that, he’s a fantastic player πŸ˜‚.

4.) 20 May 2021 06:39:18
Perko lol sometimes he did quite well just poncing around looking a little tidy. But when you wear gloves when there's a nip in the air and your meant to be gritty midfielder, you have to be special. Average with NO end product, we need much much better players.

{Ed014's Note - I thought for a minute there you were talking about Paul Pogba! 🀣

5.) 20 May 2021 11:00:14
Agreed Rutland, not good enough. Think he was given a two year contract aswell, who makes these decisions. He offers nothing.

6.) 23 May 2021 20:18:22
Apart from Garner the whole midfield are dross. Get rid of the lot and start again.

7.) 28 May 2021 22:18:41
Id still keep sammy for the bench. Don't care what you lot think. He can change a game, pass or shot. On little wages. Looks lazy and can be. But one of the only players apart from garner sadly i thought could change a game from midfield. Just saying.

8.) 29 May 2021 12:00:01
I’ve got no problem keeping ameobi Bowie, just wish he could unplat his feet and learn to cross a ball.



10 May 2021 21:58:08
Can no one in the FA see the stupidity of the current arrangements between the bottom of the premier league and the Championship. It is an utter disgrace that teams are allowed to yo yo between leagues whilst teams like Brentford have to fight in the playoffs. What's the betting that WBA and Fulham will be promoted next season!
Ed The parachute payments they got season before last surely they don't get again .

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{Ed002's Note - They do indeed get them paid again and I agree the system is unfair and the money should be spread out differently but the argument is based on the disparity of income between the two divisions could adversely impact the relegated side - there have been a few examples of clubs falling away in the past.}

1.) 11 May 2021 09:51:36
I think clubs fall way because the chairman takes out after the visit to the prem.

2.) 11 May 2021 14:34:06
The parachute payments are too big and last for too long.

The way forward is to lower the size of the payouts and only one second year at a lower rate to give teams time to reduce their wage bill etc. The clubs will still have an advantage from being able to buy lotts of decent players when in the Prem but will have to release some.

Problem solved. Except it is the Prem clubs who vote on the rules, so they won't change.

3.) 11 May 2021 18:53:48
Surely relegation is there as a punishment for not being good enough, as for a club being adversely affected, clubs need to do what we the general public have to do to when we have financial difficulties, cut their cloth accordingly.

4.) 12 May 2021 11:15:40
If clubs didn't spunk tens of millions after promotion in a desperate attempt to stay in the promised land then they wouldn't need parachute payments. All parachute payments do right now is allow clubs to be more reckless when they go up. They need to be stopped or heavily reduced, especially since the introduction of FFP.

As said above, I can see WBA and Fulham being clear favourites to go straight back up.

5.) 12 May 2021 17:44:44
I think what's wrong as well is that the parachute payment doesn't count towards ffp. Basically a double bonus.

6.) 12 May 2021 18:40:38
It would be better if the parachute payments were put in a pot that was shared out between all of the Championship and the relegated Premier league clubs based on their relative league position with the clubs relegated from championship missing out.

The concentration of cash in the yo - yo clubs is getting worse and as everyone is saying the three favourite next season to go up will be WBA, Fulham and Shef United. And the rest of the clubs cannot compete financial because of FFP.

I am afraid if they don't fix this then the championship will become predictable just like the premier league.

But I don't expect this will change.

7.) 13 May 2021 06:50:53
The EPL should mandate relegation clauses in player contracts reducing/ capping salaries. Some would demand relegation release clauses but that's fair enough. Promoted teams would find it slightly harder to compete in the prem, but they could redistribute parachute payments and make the EFL more competitive.

8.) 18 May 2021 16:58:12
Good post mctavish.



03 May 2021 22:23:49
Let's us try and sensibly predict our team for the next season . I make no apologies for the below
Samba, Christie, Soh, McKenna, Bong
( my opinion Worrall 15m, will be sold to A/ V to join Matty ) ( Ribeiro will also leave )
Colback Yates Sow Cafu, Ameobi
I think also Johnson will be sold for 10m These are hard times for this club . The other young players out on loan will either sit on the bench or have further time on loan.

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1.) 04 May 2021 08:34:26
Relegation then.

2.) 04 May 2021 19:58:18
Gabriel, Worrall, McKenna, New LB
Artur, Yates
Mighten, Carvalho/ New No.10/ Grabban, Johnson

I predick Artur to have a good second season after being put on a decent fitness program close season and coming back ready to play (optomism/ hope more than predict haha)

3.) 04 May 2021 20:35:59
Red C, I'm hoping the same for Lolley. A good rest and hopefully he can come back a bit like his old self. No close season last year knackered him up, a major loss.

4.) 04 May 2021 23:43:51
Yes MV, we have basically been playing without our best player. It is easy to forget Lolley was previously our best attacking player by a country mile.

I just don't have a clue whether he is medically able to be the same player again. Fingers crossed.

I heard Nick Powell is out of contract shortly. I'd offer him a contract in a heartbeat. He has started 39 games this season with 12 goals and 3 assists! No transfer fee required. New number 1 problem solved!

5.) 05 May 2021 09:52:47
Good shout that, a goalscoring midfield player? Forest could definitely do with one if them.

6.) 05 May 2021 18:02:44
Interesting points particularly about Arter. Christie has grown really well and would like him perm. Worrall mckenna should be a great pairing if mckenna can stay fit. Samba not good enough sorry, too much of a prat. Lolley has issues that i doubt he can overcome. Grabban? Just can't see us starting a new season with his type, offers zero in the air and goes too wide and too deep. We have all seen enough of poor personal performances, and very little collective cohesion. If Hughton stays, which is not nailed on yet, i year contract, then the playing staff has not got the nucleous to take the club forward. Their has to be changes. Not what we want but what we need. This team has been hard to watch and for me that's not down to hughton.

7.) 06 May 2021 22:34:23
Its very much down to hughton rutlandhe picks and sets up the team to play a certain way.
Thats to play not to lose, anything else is a bonus.
Counting the days till he's gone.
Dreadful manager.



28 May 2020 09:13:42
Football - anyone know why according to the post we put in a 7 figure bid for a Cameroon centre back playing in France. I have lost count how many Centre backs we have currently but is that what SL wants or is it wishful thinking reporting.

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30 Jul 2019 21:44:31
According to Wiki Samba Sow has joined Nottingham Forest!

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1.) 30 Jul 2019 22:44:23
Wiki quite often makes a pigs ear out of false news? But then you do reap what you Sow?

2.) 31 Jul 2019 14:05:17
Very good!

3.) 31 Jul 2019 14:15:25
I see we are assembling the usual dross and nonentities that we always do, and next year we'll be getting rid of them, and getting more in. A never-ending circle it seems.

4.) 31 Jul 2019 15:25:46
How can we call signings dross before they have kicked a ball, the ones we have seen such as samedo have played well I just don't get it.

5.) 31 Jul 2019 15:47:33
Mir, Sow (if signed) are underwhelming, but then I thought that last year with Goncalves, Dias, Murphy, Ansarifard, Hefele, etc. etc. Ok let's watch them play but we have already got now about 15 players who we do not need in my opinion.

6.) 31 Jul 2019 16:43:38
Bit like me on Fifa!




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08 Jun 2021 11:12:06
What should the club philosophy be when looking at players? Of course we want the next Roy K, Stan C . They are out there still so having a top scout is a must . So do we nab Peterborough's? may be cheaper than one of their forwards! The experiment with players their clubs no longer want has been an abject failure . I am not in favour of loans as they distort a side and give a false position . So I think we have to do some bartering ie sell a player where we have strength but invest in a league one striker paying 8-9 million . That would have such a positive effect on the whole club and supporters and season ticket sales! Combine this with some home grown maturing youth and the ' Ruffels ' like from League 1. The club no longer has the pulling power to get top players here, we must hope CH has got a reputation that attracts players to Forest otherwise it will be more of the same .

doc m

1.) 08 Jun 2021 11:28:36
Hoping with the change in recruitment we get players in who will at least have resale value. I think in future we as fans may have to be more patient with players too. Brentford have an advantage as their fans are behind developing players. Us forest fans having suffered so bad we look for short term and can quickly write of a player before even settling in.

2.) 08 Jun 2021 14:52:25
CH has got a reputation for attracting players doc, the wrong ones πŸ˜‰

3.) 08 Jun 2021 16:05:36
Your getting very cynical Mr Bowie, not sure you rate manager πŸ€”.

4.) 08 Jun 2021 16:12:30
I see its saying that Mr M had spent 72 Million on the club even before lock down not including what he wanted to spend on ground improvements, shame he’s wasted most of that.

5.) 08 Jun 2021 20:18:44
Well at least it shows he's willing to keep the ship afloat.

6.) 09 Jun 2021 04:36:47
The trouble Redmarsh is the money is loaned to the club, it is going to be hard to sell up if we do not go up, he and the club are in between a rock and a hard place.

He is not just writing it off, should he decide to sell he will want that money back as part of the deal.

7.) 09 Jun 2021 07:12:38
Get forward I thought he did write off a substantial amount.



29 May 2021 15:52:43
Ok everyone who do we want to stay in the Championship the side with two British players or the side with 9 British players.

doc m



26 May 2021 14:20:31
Strikers - problems facing Forest
1. Who? According to the post there are 4 or 5 from the lower division so which do they choose to bid for? So here the manager needs to use his skills to spot the one that fits into the squad
2. Will he come? The one we spot will have other suitors so we may need a thick wallet or brown bag.
The choice is so important as we can't have two or three and we have two already.

doc m



12 May 2021 07:41:40
Common sense should tell the club anyone on > 20 K is either a midfield dynamo, a 20 goal phenomenon, a mountain of a defender or a Billy Whizz winger . If non of our current loans or players on our books have these characteristics let them go. We must try and balance the books as a priority.

doc m

1.) 12 May 2021 10:01:44
Ah common sense ,now there,s a thing!

2.) 12 May 2021 10:19:35
I thought common sense was an American rapper. Apparently its 50 cents. πŸ€”.

3.) 12 May 2021 12:26:26
Maybe it's just me, but that Jermaine Jenas seems to be always on the box!
"Match Of The Day"
"The One Show"
"BT Football"
"Jermain-ation Street"
"Keepin Up With The Jenashians"
"Jer-Married At First Sight"
"How I Met Jerm-Mother"
"Gordon, Jenas, and Fred"
As you can see the list is bloody endless! "

4.) 12 May 2021 12:38:35
You kmow them jermains rogie even there cars are the best 😳.

5.) 12 May 2021 12:52:55
"They Bombed our Chippy! "

6.) 12 May 2021 13:30:35
His name was pronounced Jenas when he was roaming round Clifton and playing for us. They all of a sudden the bright lights of that there London came calling and it's now
Jee-nus. 🀷🎈.

7.) 12 May 2021 17:17:59
Jeenus sound similar to anus.

8.) 12 May 2021 21:22:00
That rapper is cheap to go to see in concert Bowiered πŸ˜€.

9.) 14 May 2021 20:48:39
Rattle your jewelry in the front seats GF (lennon)



09 May 2021 22:24:50
Note two young managers suitable for Forest of Lincoln and Oxford Appleton or Robinson . How interesting to see Lincoln if promoted with the help of two Forest rejects Grant and Bridcutt plus Johnson - or Oxford with Mcguane or Sheffield United with Osborne, Mcgoldrick and Burke .

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26 Sep 2020 13:36:24
You can only hope SL wins his next match otherwise this club will loose a lot of its supporters.

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19 Aug 2020 22:07:53
Whatever anyone says about the 19/ 20 team, the combination did well and came effectively 6th equal! Ok they messed up after the the virus induced break but that does not devalue the previous 40 games . My point bring players like Silva were an integral part of this team . People are all out for selling Cash, Worrall and Silva, on our past record I would seriously doubt we will get better more committed players. I think we are all risking throwing the baby out with the bath water!

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03 Jun 2020 07:32:22
I worry about our scouting system . It seems and wonder how much input SL has . Rumours are rumours and the NP has to write about something. Recently they have discussed Forest interest in a young portugese midfielder - well we have been down that road before . Twice bitten nice shy would be my view . Then there is the forward who was on Juventus books but now not playing . A centre back and most recently a right back . Are these scouts living in Europe I presume they must be. My view is to get Lyle Johnson at the club whatever the fee. When he came to the City ground he was the best player on the pitch and ran his heart out and scored a goal . He is young and knows the championship game. Of the overseas players we have signed only 2 have been very successful Samba, and Sow and 2 moderately success Silva And Figs. It seems salary is the most important concern before talent.

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24 Oct 2019 09:17:28
Yes this happened last season when Dawson was injured thank good ness we have Samba. If we don’t move higher in the table ie top 4 it will be harder to attract a good striker in January if that’s what we need. Psychology is important . Watson was slated last season now or at least was a hero - what changed! Carvalho is bereft of confidence? Perhaps a time in the reserves would help? Lolley is not playing like he can either. So the manager does not drop them after one gain as that would psychologically be bad . Vis a vis Bostock who had a great game in the cup against Derby but then apparently a bad game against Wigan. I think I would have chosen him last night rather than Carvalho. However Yates I think played well. Dilemmas for SL but a win against Reading is important to move up the league but psychologically a priority for the players.

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24 Jul 2019 20:28:16
Osborn has a loyalty and commitment to Forest that no one can deny. When he is allowed to play midfield he is a completely selfless player. Chris Wilder is a common sense manager and I think Benny will show the doubters on this site that he made a good move. AV and Sheffield will stay up next season due to their managers buying sensibly a few players to fit a successful team. We buy as many as we can and completely change everything! Good luck to Benny.

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23 Jun 2021 09:10:10
Indeed and with an apparently an international class striker who is worth 150M who can’t score goals and seems of the pace? = Grabone.

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20 Jun 2021 20:40:42
I agree Earnshaw was a good player for us and speaks well . I say well played and fought Wales, they did their fans proud, with 10 men for 30 mins against the potential winners of the tournament.

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18 Jun 2021 22:38:26
Entirely predictable, never mind Wally with the Brolly what about Muntie in his school Mac . A completely uninspiring manager who if we by chance qualify for the next round will consider it a success.

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18 Jun 2021 14:56:36
It will be close . If GS plays cautious we will at best draw . If he plays Grealish we can see he means business . Ming does not warrant being dropped for Maguire who has not played since May. If he picks Henderson to start we are heading for a poor result. Let’s have Sancho at least on the bench . GS is too β€˜nice’ ideal for the FA board of > 80 yr olds but not inspiring enough to be successful.

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18 Jun 2021 08:15:34
Market forces - Sky charge what they like or they can get away with ! If there was no Sky there would be someone else, ( I don’t subscribe ) . It is scandalous that players can be paid 300,000 a week surely that cannot carry on. Shirt pulling is happening in the box with every corner and free kick so it has to be left to the referee . VAR is good technology, it’s the sometimes the officials that are suspect . One rule I would make is that a team that is promoted this season and relegated the next cannot go straight back up again.

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