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07 Apr 2019 15:17:18
Unless MON/RK are given a free rein to bring in who they think is necessary in the summer (if they can) I think we will be in the same position as with all the other managers before them. We have patched up and patched up with players who just are not good enough, looking for "experienced and seasoned professionals"
to get us through, but never good enough to take us up.
I do not think this club will change until we bring a team up from the grass roots through the U18/U23 sides and let them use their full capacities in the 1st 11.
Our present team blows hot and cold, is inconsistent, and should not be relying on motivation from management, but should be hungry to do the simple things right and wear the shirt with pride all the time.
Confidence is low, and that seems to be a hangover from the last twenty or so years.
They do not live up to our expectations of them by and large, look at the groans and silences when Pants, the defenders and midfielders make poor passes and poor choices.
This yearns for a skilled midfielder as we have plenty of holding midfielders, and though Lolley can run at them and score, he needs someone to help him move the team forward, and so far I can't see that.
We all need to be realists: the play-offs are dead - we don't, on the balance of our play and talents - deserve to be there.
I reckon one year from now will not do it, MON/RK need at least two, but unless we can reach the top six comfortably next year, I fear their days are numbered.
We are nowhere near capable of matching the stadium plans with the results we desire.
There ought to be a massive clear out of dead wood, plus others, and a massive development of all the young talent at the club - noticeably MON/RK are attending the youngsters' games - it may be that this is where our future lies.

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07 Apr 2019 15:31:40
Bsered, The trouble is, over the years the club have given too many one season wonders and average players lengthy contracts on high wages for the league we have been in, yet the club has just not learned from that mistake, all in the desperate quest for success.

07 Apr 2019 16:16:22
It’s a nice ideology bsered but the majority of our young players never make the grade. This is because the best prospects go to the premier league . There is no evidence for nearly twenty years now of a conveyer belt of talent - in fact it’s been quite the opposite if we are honest .

07 Apr 2019 16:32:33
2star, I know some players are just more naturally gifted than others but as English clubs, including Forest continually scout players from other countries looking for better players, and cheaper players for the similar skill level than our own, why are we not just teaching our own the very skills we look for that we search for in players from foreign shores.

07 Apr 2019 16:56:05
LC if it was that easy we would do it.

07 Apr 2019 17:06:55
Redtree, I was not suggesting it was easy, but i feel most English clubs look to train different skill sets to their own young players than the skill sets they look for in players from other countries.

07 Apr 2019 17:18:07
I wish I had the answer pal, I’m not sure what it is , there is Northing more amazing for a fan than discovering a Roy Keane , what I struggle with is the persisting with players that simply aren’t good enough whilst trying to convince ourselves they are. I wish we could get four or five diamonds every three - four years but it just doesn’t seem to happen anymore. Cash might make it but I think even that one is touch and go at times. I don’t hold out much hope for worrral and walker either. They are good enough for L1 and L2 and this is my point , it doesn’t seem like a champ team can be built with academy players anymore

07 Apr 2019 18:08:58
LC that's a fair point. Just on another point we've probably had a leftback problem for 10 years + you would have thought by now we would have produced a decent enough one from the academy. Even as just a back up! (I don't count Osborn!)

07 Apr 2019 18:29:00
I do not count Osborn either, and i agree with you.

07 Apr 2019 18:32:37
To be honest I'd take passion ,hard work rate and a hunger for the club over skill , we need to build a team and players with the ability to move off the ball one thing no matter who plays we are one of the most static teams out their always going backwards look at villa their players always seem to have acres of room always moving looking for passes and not scared to hold onto the ball , I can't see us playing that way , on a positive we gave the best fans in the league and a owner who wants better for the club



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