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21 May 2013 16:15:53
i would like our new shirt to look a little FC N�rnberg 2013/14 adidas Home Kit but I think it may look more like Toronto FC new shirt. {Ed034's Note - I hate round neck tops. the England one is awful and would hate for the forest won to be anything like it

21 May 2013 16:05:53
As the maximum spending amount this year has gone down by a million we need to keep hold to people like mcgugan for support. Loaning will prove more key this season if we target bigger players. Linked players such as Jon taylor from Shrewsbury along with a couple of big signings should push forest for promotion

21 May 2013 12:54:37
I think we have got to think numbers and gate reciepts with the away fans and where they sit along wwith policing and safety stewards. I know from sitting in the upper Bridgford that you can't fart without a wannabee cop (steward) being all over you. I usually sit in the Main stand and to be honest the away fans drown out the home fans even when there is only a couple of hundred of them from that end. It is quite sad when you see that whole bottom end with so many empty seats. I believe get the reds fans closer to the players to gee on the home side and give the away fans/players some nice friendly banter like we usually do.
With the FFP play coming in them extra 1,000 home fans could be the difference between signing Messi and Carlton Cole!
Any way who are we going to sign my targets would be Baptiste, Davies and Ward for CB, Shorey if we can squeeze another season or two out of him left back, Hutchinson and another up and coming player for RB, Charlie Adam to play with Geddy and Lansbury and a Right sided player such as Ince, Redmond, Burke etc. the forwards should be Sharpe (he will score 25-30 with service) Cox and preferably some one like Andy Johnson and Wells to cover. The goalkeeper should be between Darlow and Rashidi maybe bringing in somebody if their form dips. Me personally I would like Rashidi as he never seems to be beaten in the warm up.

Good insight! I agree with what you're saying about the ground. I think we definitely need a couple of wingers to add the pace and width and then the strikers will score.

21 May 2013 10:45:40
Does anyone know which of our players are out of contract other than McGugan?
Thanks,
Red Setter

21 May 2013 11:31:35
From what I can see on a site called tansfermarkt, there is Chris Cohen, Darius Henderson, Lewis McGugan and Marcus Tudgay. {Ed034's Note - cohen is under contract as far as I am aware

wolverhampton_red

21 May 2013 14:17:26
Thats what I thought too Ed but his name is on the list as expiring this summer?

Cohan signed a contract until 2016 end of last year / begining of this year.

Hendo only signed 6 months so he's out of contract

Jording

21 May 2013 00:34:59
We have to get wardy now and quick.

21 May 2013 00:34:04
Malouda available on a free. Says anything could happen. I think it's worth a punt, might not happen but you never know

20 May 2013 23:27:47
like I say, I can see why it's annoying that the supporters in upper bridgford have got to move, but wherever we move the away fans to, a portion of forest fans are going to have to move. the easiest and safest place to relocate them is, unfortunately for some supporters, the upper bridgford stand. but like people are saying, if all these supporters move into bridgford lower, then what's the problem? they'll make the same noise and it will generate a better atmosphere because they'll be closer to A and B block, so the noise will combine and bring more people in. yeh they should have announced their plans sooner but really, what's the problem? it's not like u only come down to forest because u can sit in wb upper is it? you come down to watch the team and sing. u can do that in wb lower

I agree with you, I know its easy for me to say as i'm not the one that's having to move. But in my opinion when we sell out and we put some fans in the lower corner of the brideford we generate a better atmosphere and it wouldn't matter which end we kick because there will be a sea of forest fans willing the ball over the goal line

Hello

I am one of those having to move and I can say that the view in the lower tier is very poor compared to the upper. Having to give up a seat just behind the goal in the upper tier to away fans is not good news. I've sat in every part of the ground and apart from the Brian Clough Upper these are the best seats in the ground. The adjacent block in the lower BC would be better employed for away fans leaving the whole of the Bridgeford End for the home fans. I've been a season ticket holder there for over ten years and am surrounded by long term season ticket holders. I have had no correspondence from the club regarding this (I renewed early) and the first I've heard about this is on a rumour site! This is a poorly thought out move with no consideration for long term supporters! Ed Brown

Absolutely agree Ed Brown!

Well it's not too late to try and let the club know about your feelings. there must be a petition or a group or something.

20 May 2013 23:02:48
can anyone update me on the reports that Adam La Fondre is in talks with forest

I'll update that i've got my fingers crossed this is true?

Pinxton

20 May 2013 22:14:15
I'm quite happy away fans are being moved they get far too much support to their team behind the goal. Not sure they should go in upper Bridgford tho, stick em in the corner of trent end or bexec stand. As a side noe what about trying to sign Adam Le Fondre?

You can't put them in the trent end! I don't think they should be in bc either, the view is better and should be for our fans. They're putting them in the right place {Ed034's Note - the view issue is irrelevant because everyone who has spent money on buying a season ticket in jp corner do it for more than just the view, which is pretty good by the way

Where would you move them ed? I'm in upper clough and that should be for our fans aswell as a great view its a tribute stand to a legend. It wouldn't be safe to put them up there and would intervere with the highest generated season ticket price similar in the main stand. The trent end is the kop end so no go there we want them away from the pitch so they can't encourage their team so sadly west bridgeford upper is the only place I can see it working. If people in the upper bridgeford don't want to go in the lower bridgeford then its been said by the club that they will for this season allow them to relocate anywhere in the ground free of charge so could be near me having paid much less (I'm halfway line) which is a decent gesture the club announces things at a much quicker rate now before contacting people which is what we wanted. they've apologised and done their best. i'm sorry to those season ticket holders disrupted but this is what we wanted. This is what we got. Away fans nowhere near the pitch and with smaller allocation. People were always going to be affected by this wherever it was deemed to be moved to. {Ed034's Note - both corners of bc stand are often empty, meaning these areas have no st holders and there for wouldn't have any affect to st holders at all.
if this could not have happened due to policing, then they should not be moved

Mod Red

20 May 2013 19:03:38
Camp and Ward released by Norwich

Simeon jackson aswell!

I bet camp pleased now 2 av left forest wot is it they say about be careful what you wish for.

Hope that makes Wards decision a lot easier to come to us. Was good for a goal or two aswell.

20 May 2013 18:27:39
Some mongy festa fans r saying tht they r going to sign pep so they can go up as champs. it was on this site on the football rumours sections. wot persons he is a red throu and throu {Ed034's Note - we all know that ain't happening and if I came accords it, I wouldn't have even added it

20 May 2013 17:52:14
Does anyone seriously consider Rhodes to be a £10m player. be honest. {Ed034's Note - good question

Nope. He wasn't worth 8 million.

He is better than guys like Connor Wickham, who went for silly stupid money. Rhodes is a goal scorer good in the air can use both feet to pass and finish. And is strong enough to play up front alone, like he did when Scotland beat Holland under 21 team 2 1 in which he scored. Guys good really good movement, does his best work in the box. Where he twists and turns and gets shots away. Be great if Moyes took him to Manchester United, as Paul Scholes has scouted him.

Good goal scorer, but I would go with no.

If he scores 20 goals and we go up then yes. Otherwise no. We definitely need somebody to score 20 odd goals especially if we lose McGugan. can't see Blackstock or Cox doing it, unfortunately.

No way good player and goal scorer but we could get peter odewingy from wba for 3million who just ss good and will score about the same. Soz about spelling on his name.

The Nigerian looks like he will be signing for Hull City, so that is out the question. Rhodes will not sign for another championship club, if he leaves it will be for the Premiership or Germany Spain or Italy.

I, m with you ED they should have at the very least told us this was in the pipeline, and the view from the lower tier will be cr#p compared to the view we had in U2 that's why we paid early to renew it and did not have a seat in the lower stands in the first place, and to those of you who say get over it, you must be amongst the hundreds of people who suggested they move them in the first place and are not personally effected by your bright idea, this should have been put to the fans and a decision made after.

Kev

20 May 2013 17:22:13
Upper bridgford is going to be open for away fans and forest fans will have the lower bridgford. {Ed034's Note - not happy one bit about that

I'm with you there Ed, stick em em in the lower Brian Clough {Ed034's Note - if they were planning on moving them, it should have been sorted before tickets went on sale and people has renewed there seats.

upper Clough

Ed you can change seats! it would cause problems moving them where ever although the best place would be upper bc next to the trent end but I suppose their is health and safety regs. Fans were moaning about not having fans behind both goals and are know moaning that they've been moved. {Ed034's Note - I've sat in my for a łong tîme and we have a great atmosphere there. I am not stupid, I know I can move seat. The lint is if they knew that was where they were moving them, why not get this sorted before asking people to renew??
I am not happy being told I have to give up my seat for away fans and neither are a lot of season ticket holders there.

I've sat everywhere in the ground and thought upper bridgford is probably the worst. The lower part will be so much better with a greater atmosphere. A lot of people have been wanting this for a long time. {Ed034's Note - more or less the whole of u1 and U2 are season ticket holders, who love the atmosphere, view and camaraderie we have there. Yeah it's great we now have behind the goal, but if it meant moving everyone out of capital corner, I would rather it stayed the same

Well it's not up to you ed :/ sorry but wooooo we've got our bridgford end back! {Ed034's Note - no it's not. Doesn't make it right though

Poor organisation this I agree, I have had a season ticket in most parts of ground and I actually enjoyed capital corner but the season we had lower bridgford probably one of the best. Good move I think {Ed034's Note - how is it a good move to dismantle the noisiest section of the home support???

Put em in Trent end, no fans sing over their anyway.

Surely the thinking behind it is all of u block will go to lower bridgeford and even more noise will be made. At the end of the day it's just a seat - being their is what counts {Ed034's Note - how can you guarantee everyone will move there??? If fawaz came out, explained how thoughts and said he wants jp corner to move and have some uplifting reason, I think fans would be a little more understanding. At this minute in time the vast majority who sit there feel like we've been s*** on

Calm down I agree with the comment above. its only a seat its the support that counts and I don't think it's the loudest area of the ground. {Ed034's Note - a block is always half full and nowhere else sings. No consultation, no thought about the fans that are there and no thought about the knock on affect to the atmosphere

I suppose we don't know what it's like unless we actually sit their

No thoughts to the fans? They did it in the first place to please the fans. Talk about overreact {Ed034's Note - there's not though to the fans that sit in upper bridge and who have sat there for a number of years. Your comment about there being a lot of happy fans its just childish.

I think u1 should down to lower brigeford then u will combine noise with a block meaning better noise

It's not childish. There are a lot of happy fans. I'm giving there opinion it's not all about you. {Ed034's Note - no it's about 2,000 st holders who are not happy. It barely affects you one way or another, yet it does us who sit there. Keep it the same and keep everyone happy

20 May 2013 22:32:50
yeah I get you ed and i've seen on twitter the complaints. should have moved away fans to upper bc near the trent end. got to feel sorry for fawaz tho, trying to help and all he gets are complaints {Ed034's Note - why feel sorry for him? He should have consulted and got the thoughts of the forest fans that are being made to move

Have contributed to this site for a while and never heard the ed anything other than supportive to fawaz. whilst this one has got your goat, the priority was always to reclaim both goals, in order to do this the away fans have to move somewhere. wherever he put them, the original occupants were going to kick up a stink, no win situation.

I can see why it's annoying but surely it's something you can get over? one thing I will say about u block is they sing mull of kintyre too fast. always bugs me {Ed034's Note - bugs me too

2000 fans?

ed your the only one moaning mate {Ed034's Note - no I'm not. I've had fans ringing me gutted, hundreds on twitter gutted and all saying the same thing. Would you still back the idea if they were moving away fave to the a block??

There was a consultation process as well. Some form of email thing. {Ed034's Note - to who?? If it was to the fans being told to move, my two sisters, uncle, cousin nor myself got one

21 May 2013 07:38:15
Where ever he moved away fans u would get unhappy fans so he can't win (we all wanted away fans moved) {Ed034's Note - move them to the corners of the bc stand. There are no st holders there and there for everyone wins

You can't move them there it's not safe. What can't you understand about that? {Ed034's Note - if they couldn't get police approval to move then there into a place where you are not upsetting 2,000 loyal st holders, they shouldn't move them

Well I for one am thinking of moving their bridgford lower creates by far best atmosphere in ground if ya want to sing get in it.

Ed, sounds like your in the wrong stand anyway, shouldn't you be in the family enclosure? Lol {Ed034's Note - ???

20 May 2013 15:33:58
spoke to baptistes cousin/sister and she says she is 90% certain he is going to leave but would reveal no more

Heskeys Son

If Baptiste has a cousin who is also his sister, does that mean he is from Derby?

20 May 2013 10:56:36
How about this for next season:

Darlow

Halford Ward Baptiste Cresswell

Guedioura

McHearen Lansbury

Sako Whittingham

Sharp/Cox


What do people think?
Pat

I count 12 players there

Not wishing to be clever, but I think the slash between Cox & Sharp suggests its one or the other. If i'm wrong, then I don't think it will be long before our plan to field one more than the opposition is rumbled.

Its sharp/cox as in, either or, not both, I couldn't make my mind up as neither have really had the opportunity with proper service from the wings

Pat {Ed034's Note - I hope so or we are trying to play with 12 lol

Who is mchearen?

On loan at middlesbourgh but is from chelsea am I wright

Yeh sorry I can't spell his name, but it is the Chelsea kid that's been at boro

Pat

Cant see Sharpe staying as did not seem to fit into BDs plans. Top scorer for the club and yet hardly started a match after BD took over. Why should he stay?. I have said before there is no doubt Cox's commitment but he never has been a goal scorer in any club he has been with. So will not change now and nor would we pay 2.5 million again. There is no doubt to me we will not make the playoffs even if we do not sign a proven goal scorer ie either one of the top 5 of either the championship or division one. My view get Austin, we will never get Rhodes. I am no scout but there are the stats for everyone to see, goals scored and goal assists. Our top three scorers may be leaving Sharpe Dex and Mcguganso we need replacements

McEachran

Cox scored over 20 per season with swindon

20 May 2013 08:33:16
Not a rumour but on another Forest site few posters seem concerned about the club, namely not replacing sacked staff, club disorganised and Fawaz not funding the club in the way we hope, i'm not too concerned as some of these posters have had a problem with our owners from the start, I was wondering what fans on this site think {Ed034's Note - i'll kick off and say it's bull. either a very miserable person or a sheep

upper Clough

Absolutely NOTHING to worry about, these other posters are more than likely as Ed says, fans of rival clubs, nothing to do with forest, just jealous fans

Pat

I think they are Forest fans but they have a problem with the owners, probably had connections with some of the sacked staff

upper Clough

Probably a bit racist too

They take themselves very seriously and think they are the moral guardians of our club and need to be informed of every decison

upper Clough

Fawaz has answered to his critics time and time again. If they can't see his heart is in the club they must be blind

I agree entirely, but its no help to notorious Forest fans David Blunkett & Stevie Wonder!

Theres nothing wrong in being concerned about things behind the scenes and tbh I find it a little worrying that a lot of fans seem to dismiss it and forget that we are just coming out of a very unsettled period in our history. we don't know how much more money fawaz is going to invest or what the budget for transfers/wages is, we have been unorganised at times behind the scenes but we knew that big changes were needed and had to expect that (putting Am in charge and a few contradictions in press releases etc. cannot be explained as easily?) but the sacked staff note is slightly strange? who are the other concerns with?- FC, MA, press officer or coaching staff (most of them are self explanotory but FC still confuses me a little?) but if they weren't pulling their weight i'd rather the club moved them on and if we have to wait for the right replacements then so be it. the owners are still learning and just to expect promotion, a huge budget and instant success is probably wishful thinking and unrealistic?
Im 100% behind the owners and management and very positive about next season (i am also hopeful that BD will completely win me over next season -im still sitting on the fence a bit with Prince Billy as I still feel that he falls short in the high pressure games (or is he just really unlucky?) - i'm not saying i'm worried about behind the scenes stuff but I don't think we as fans should just dismiss it and say its bull because billys back in charge and fawaz has given some very positive press and got pots of money in the bank.
ed -ive just finished my positive thinking classes but I think I might need to book up again for next term lol :) {Ed034's Note - with regards to not knowing how much they will invest, that is the same with every chairman/owner of every club.
the staff that have been sacked is to try and get this club moving again. we have been stagnant for a long time while these people have been behind the scenes. surely we should give credit to fawaz for coming in and making changes.
there seems to be a small section of fans that have an agenda against fawaz, for whatever reason that is and who are waiting/hoping he fails so they can say 'told you so'.
why not have everyone behind him, like you said you are and all be one???

2tone

ND's heart was in the club too - it doesn't mean success is guaranteed to follow? I think ND was held back and/or misled by other staff but that could happen again with fawaz (im thinking more misled than held back?) i'm happy to wait and see who we can sign and go into next season open minded (promotion-fantastic/play offs-great, but if we end up in a similar position to this year and make improvements to the squad and whole structure of the club I will still be happy)

2tone

Ed your reply makes it sound like i'm the one raising the concerns? I do keep my eyes on behind the scenes events purely because of the line of work i'm in and how important it isto the long term health of the club. I back the owner 100% and have never said any different (i even emailed the club during the last season to thank them for stabilising the club and starting to move us forward -i got a very nice mail back from them to, which shows they do value fans input). I don't live in nottingham and havnt picked up on any anti fawaz fans and tbh I cannot see any reason why they would doubt him? he is on a learning curve and will make some mistakes along the way don't we all? but the signs are good that he learns from them and makes up for it.
and with regards to the budget its not an issue to me- I don't care if he spends 1 million or 15 million (its his money after all- but I certainly don't demand he spends a fortune which some fans seem to ) i'm more interested that its spent in the right way ie. the good of the club/on the right players etc. {Ed034's Note - you must have read it in a different way to which it was intended. I was talking in general and did point out at the bottom of the reply that you are behind fawaz

2tone

Is the small anti fawaz group in the local press or some areas of the ground? I havnt heard any thing at the ground or in the pub/tbi?
im surprised by it as he really makes an effort with the fans and certainly looks like he wants to make us happy. if at the end of the season nothing has changed and we havnt improved the squad or made some big signings I could understand a bit of moaning but he hasn't had much of a chance yet? for everything he has done so far i'm very grateful and I hope he has enjoyed it half as much as I have. the club will prosper with united backing but all these splinter groups can cause real damage. I don't agree with everything that happens but I will support whatever they do (i might moan on here about it but when i'm at the ground its all forgotten!) {Ed034's Note - it's usually the odd keyboard warrior and I doubt they are even forest fans

2tone

20 May 2013 22:11:34
It's not vital is it. Got massively bored of the negativity on that site towards the owners. Still at it with Billy's advisor now on twitter.

Keeno {Ed034's Note - the majority on here back the owners but if you think the club is doing something wrong, which affects you personally, should you jot be allowed to voice your frustration?? I am always fully positive and I think this is an awful move on forests part

20 May 2013 08:00:57
Not a rumour but Danny Simpson shoud be a real target for the right back slot after being released by Newcastle.

20 May 2013 03:50:38
Does anyone know how the u19 have been getting on in their tournament?

Lost two won one,

upper Clough

Cheers mate.

19 May 2013 23:36:29
Ivan Klasnic available on a free after his contract runs out with Mainz. Worth a shot?

Hes 33 I havnt got a problem with players ages but people moan when we look at players 29+ saying to old we could do better.

klasnic (33) will want a huge wage given that I don't he will be worth it. having said that we have been linked with Cole (29) again with want a huge wage but goals per game is poor. not worth it.

19 May 2013 22:22:55
Billy an fawaz have spoken over the phone about plans for the up and coming season and things are starting progress, the new kit and sponser have been agreed and will be reveild in 2 weeks time with shirts going on sale both here and in kuwait, don't know what the sponsor is yet but its not going to be any gambling or money firm as this would prevent any shirts being sold in kuwait. The pre season plans are near enough complete woth friendlies with mansfield, ilkeston, walsall aleady being lined up, forest will also either play spurs or SC Freiburg in portugal with the final pre-season friendly being played against a prem side at the city ground. As for transfers a budget has been agreed between fawaz and billy with billy aiming to bring in 5-6 new player if possible, with around the same going out either sold, released or on loan, the like of derbyshire, miller, tudguy, greening told they can leave and evitimov, blake and gillet told they can go out on loan. There will also be an open day this year so the fans get the chance to meet the players, billy and fawaz, plus the chance to watch them train at the city ground

Nice info, Thanks mate.

19 May 2013 21:27:26
sam baldock is wanted by billy as he was impressed with the preformences he put in and the goals he scored for Bristol city with the 29 or so games that were made possible for him

19 May 2013 20:34:11
new signings are due to be signed early as for who we are going to sign is a mystery but expect upto 10 new players at the most this has come from a source within the club

ed you know how good my info is

L375

10 new players haha.

19 May 2013 15:56:30
what does evryone think about clint hiil and jay boteroid from QPR THOUGHTS ED {Ed034's Note - hill is too slow and we should be looking at better. bothroyd is awful. I have a work colleague who is a Wednesday fan and he says his work ethic, attitude and touch is terrible

Agree with ed tbh we should be looking at much better than them

19 May 2013 14:46:39
good game brentford and yeovil town today I just wonder which name will be first to pop up as a rumour for forest, we have had just about everybody else,

Madden maybe, or maybe we'll take a pair if players then throw one away later.

Forrester from brentford? young, skillful, bags of pontential and a good name

Dreading us playing Yeovil tbh

We'll hammer them

19 May 2013 11:16:41
Unsure over the contract situation of Ashley Cole at Chelsea but as they are rumoured to be looking at Luke Shaw from Southampton could we not make a cheeky attempt to lure Ryan Bertrand on a season long loan? Quality!! {Ed034's Note - if he goes out on loan it'll be to a prem side. would love him back though

Bertrand is first choice when cole isn't playing

19 May 2013 09:18:42
Any news on Lewis ed? {Ed034's Note - he has gone away and is mulling things over. will make a decision when he comes back on whether he wants to sit down with us and discuss or whether he will move on and talk to others

18 May 2013 18:38:27
Just spotted the new Aberdeen kit, I wonder if ours will look like this?
I think I like it?

I hope not, it looks like garbage

18 May 2013 17:11:17
Ian Harte for lb anyone

I was thinking the same myself

No thanks, we could do better.

18 May 2013 15:56:05
We need to ign Nakhi wells

Iv just said that to my mrs. Defo need him at forest.

Well, did your mrs. agree?

18 May 2013 14:06:06
Please people only post a rumour if it has some kind of foundation of truth your ruining this site with your constant lies RedRon

But some posts are just banter and fun- its easy to tell which posts are true or have real backing-the poster writes FACT at the end of the post :-)

2tone

I think it should be super ed who make the rules {Ed034's Note - have you missed a t off?? didn't realise super ted was a forest fan, but I agree with you 100%

From now on I won't accept any rumour, even the ones that say 'fact' in them or 'from someone ITK' unless its signed off with Super Ted

Pat

First signing to be announced monday- super ted (dy) Sheringham coming back to nffc on a coach, big executive 52 seater! fact and i'm idk that's 'i don't know' not just a typo. :-)

2tone

Ultra Dog here with the latest transfer news.

We are going to raid Wolves QPR and Dundee.

I think we all know who the players are but as everyone know's people in the know are not allowed to speak about a source or the actual players their after

;) INK. I mean Itk

U keep tellin em how to enjoy this site 2tone! ha ha ha
all good fun

pinxton

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