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04 Feb 2021 18:15:55
Question lads
Has any of you had a cold this winter?
Its the first year that me and the missus haven't had one.
We've had c.v. but not a cold strange?

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04 Feb 2021 18:33:39
Me neither mate.

04 Feb 2021 18:46:33
Apparently no cold flu this year.

04 Feb 2021 19:18:46
Caught c.v. but very mild symptoms.

04 Feb 2021 20:08:15
Might be because we’re not all moving around the country acting as vectors .

04 Feb 2021 20:19:35
Yet everyone's supposedly catching cv 2 star?
Can't have it both ways mate.

04 Feb 2021 20:31:16
Ii get we don't interact as much but i don't know one single person that's had a cold .
Just seems very strange that it just seems as if the comman cold has disappeared?

04 Feb 2021 20:45:40
Forest caught one at Swansea !

🤧🤧🤒
CARLO

04 Feb 2021 20:55:49
Whoops ineed a tissue.
CAFU CAFU. 🤣🤣🤣.

04 Feb 2021 21:05:59
This is true Fred.

04 Feb 2021 22:35:02
Theres no supposedly fred.

04 Feb 2021 23:01:52
Not to you Ff obviously.
You answered your own question at the beginning but you still find it strange?
How can the common cold and flu magically dissappear yet a rampant new c.v. spread like wildfire?
Could you have been fooled into thinking you had something other than your yearly dose of cold/ flu by a test that throws up a 94% false positive rate? 🤔.

04 Feb 2021 23:49:29
No fred i was ill with it so was the missus and being a carer she past it to the lady who spent three weks in hospital on a Vent stopping cancer patients and others getting treatment.
Only one fool fred and that's not me.
When it affects you let us know .

05 Feb 2021 00:39:44
And why can't one c.v. be more contagious Fred? Nonsense about C. v. for a change. Flu hasn't "magically disappeared either. People are still dying from it, just not as many as dying of c. v. The NHS have a report everyone can read on flu outbreaks every year and plenty died of it last year.

Stick to footy if you don't tknow what you're on about is my advice.

05 Feb 2021 03:28:01
Spot on, RC. Too much unchecked information read on social media warps brains.

05 Feb 2021 05:00:44
Colds and Corona spread differently have different vitality and different transmission matrices. CV can remain on surfaces for a much longer period of time. Colds tend to only live for a short period on surfaces and need a lot of people to transmit themselves around. People have had colds this year, I had one but it was only mild, thankfully I have dodged the c.v. but I know many people who haven’t.

05 Feb 2021 06:06:05
Check out gov. uk's website for yearly flu figures Cyclist and see for yourself.
I find it helps to do some research of your own before forming an opinion.
Where in the thread did anyone say one c. v. can't be more contagious than another?
Stick to pedal pushing if you can't be bothered to check facts is my advice.

05 Feb 2021 08:15:04
Ff79 mate slight exaggeration say ‘ everyone ‘ is catching c.v., actually cases so far show about 5% of the population have actually had c.v.,

05 Feb 2021 08:43:16
Thats cus i haven't actually posted that"e everyone "is getting it.

05 Feb 2021 09:36:25
ff79 I have been cold this winter! .

05 Feb 2021 10:22:43
Ff79 when Fred posted” supposedly every one is getting cv, “you replied “ there’s no supposedly ‘ or did I misread?!

05 Feb 2021 11:34:03
Stevie. lol😴.

05 Feb 2021 12:59:13
Look up the PHE National Influenza report. You are plain wrong Fred so pipe down and stop spreading misinformation. People are dying!

There are obviously less flu cases as we have spent half the last year locked down. Same for colds. There are more CV cases because it is more contagious AND more deadly, so more people get tested for it. Hundreds of people died from flu last year so stop insulting their families by promoting dangerous lies!

Eds: I have posted this because somebody is promoting dangerous false information and the record should be put right. People are dying because folks are pretending this is not serious and spread the disease. However, maybe we could agree to remove any posts about it in future, except obvious footy stuff perhaps ones about when grounds open or when matches are cancelled) .

05 Feb 2021 13:08:59
Red cyclist of course it’s serious, of course people are dying, and every death is a tradegy, but even the figure of a hundred thousand, represents point one of 1% of the population. That’s not misinformation. That’s fact based on official figures,

05 Feb 2021 13:29:32
What are you basing your information on people not taking it seriously on Cyclist?
Are people that offer a different view to yours really killing people?
Where does your information that there are more cases of c. v because its more deadly come from?
Look at these global influenza figures for 2020 to early 2021 on The World Health Organisations website.
Search who flumart
Click on flumart outputs
Click on c.v. detection graphs.
Is it false information?

05 Feb 2021 13:35:31
But that figure would be far worst stevie if we had just carried on a normal life.

05 Feb 2021 14:03:07
All i'd say is who do you trust?
All the world leaders?
Or fred?

05 Feb 2021 14:10:52
Fff79 mate am not denying that, but people quoting numbers have to put them into some sort of context, otherwise they don’t give the full picture.

05 Feb 2021 14:36:58
The picture would be totally different though without action from the worlds leaders.
Non of us like being in lockdown but at least the vax gives us some hope we can get back to normal sooner rather than later.

05 Feb 2021 14:54:00
😂 you started this thread Ff saying you found it strange that you hadn't had a cold for the first time this year and several others also stated they hadn't.
You said it was strange and posted it as if questioning it.
Nobody is denying there's a very nasty c. v. doing the rounds and it's doing what all c.v.es do and targeting the old and weak unfortunately.
You asked a question and I gave you a possible explanation but you didn't like it and took offence like another poster.
What answer as to why you hadn't suffered with a cold or flu would like someone to give?
I've suffered through all this as well in more ways than one like many others but it's due to what's happening as a result of it, not because of it.
Anyone that even mentions anything about it that doesn't follow the narrative is branded a coveidiot and that's what frightens me the most.

05 Feb 2021 15:35:58
Fred it was an honest simple question you decided to bring cv into it.
The paramedic and forest fan who lost his life wasn't what i'd class old at 49.
Tough times for every one fred some won't live to remember it though.

05 Feb 2021 16:11:58
You mentioned c. v at the start.
What other possible explanation could there be for you not catching a cold for the first time in your memory? A mild winter? Is it the first mild winter in your memory?
You either did have a cold but thought or were told it was c. v. or like others have suggested it's a result of lockdown so either way it's likely to do with c. v.
You can give mortality figures all day long but the fact remains they're highly concentrated amongst the elderly and those with underlying health conditions. Go check them out for yourself.

05 Feb 2021 16:20:32
@RedFred: As I said, people ARE dying from flu still. Here in the UK. The PHE report has the figures for last year. That is a fact so you are DEFINITELY wrong. Period!

In many poorer countries, that the WHO report on, don't have the resources to test for both flu and CV. Therefore, in many poorer they have had to divert testing to CV (because it is more deadly/ contagious) meaning that there has been less testing for flu. We do have the capacity here and the truth is that people have still been getting flu and dying.

This is the danger when people who do not have the background just spread this nonsense. You need to understand more to put data in context.

It is obvious you were trying to say that the c.v. deaths are really seasonal flu. They just aren't. You don't test positive for CV if you only have flu. It is that simple. Giving people the idea that well over 100,000 deaths aren't c.v. gives folks the idea that there is nothing to worry about and just have a party or have crowded events, nothing to see here. It is dangerous and means more people will die as the c.v. infects more vulerable people. Please stop it.

05 Feb 2021 16:33:31
Fred i had cv not a cold.
No sore throat
No runny nose
Coughing which i still am
Extremely fatigued which has passed.
You believe what you want.
I'll trust the doctors.

05 Feb 2021 17:32:00
Please don't make unfounded assumptions as to what i was trying to say cyclist.
As for you suggesting that people giving an opinion is dangerous i find absurd and deeply disturbing.
Should people not be able to give an opinion and can people not think for themselves or should they all bow down to your superior knowledge and the narrative?
It's people like you that are really starting to worry me and others in all this by suggesting people have got blood on their hands for questioning certain things.
You interpret data however you see fit and let others do likewise.
Maybe try getting off your high horse, calm down and go for a nice cycle ride in the country. Don't stray more than seven miles from home though whatever you do as that will be going against what you've been told.

05 Feb 2021 18:07:07
Have you ever thought that its people like you that frightens the rest of us fred?
Maybe stop looking at data and just accept the whole world has this problem and its real?

05 Feb 2021 18:29:32
If people keep their distance and wear a face mask until a couple of weeks after getting the jab, or jabs things will be ok.

It is the people that get bored with the regulations and then ignore them that messes things up.

Off course those that are famous and those with power that flagrantly ignore the regulations that do not help the situation.

05 Feb 2021 18:33:00
You keep on being frightened mate.
I adhere to social distancing and mask wearing so my fear of people like cyclist is built on stronger foundations than yourshould be of the likes of me.
This whole thing is based on data so why shouldn't it be scrutinised?

05 Feb 2021 18:43:06
So fred do you want the jab?
And if so why?

05 Feb 2021 19:17:45
You'll be having it before me mate by order of age so keep on posting so I know your OK.
I'll make my decision based on whether your posts start to make more or less sense 🤣.

05 Feb 2021 19:36:39
Fred that's not an answer
You should be a politician as always swerve the question. 🤣🤣.

05 Feb 2021 20:33:11
Ff79 it’ll be compulsory by proxy, you won’t be forced to have it, but you can bet you won’t be able to get in anywhere unless you’ve had it mate,

05 Feb 2021 20:39:31
Stevie i can't wait for it.

05 Feb 2021 20:40:54
Stevie f are you saying everyone will have to walk around with proof of having had a jab, i do not think that will happen.

05 Feb 2021 21:01:30
Get forward yes that’s what I’m saying mate,

05 Feb 2021 21:02:30
Ff79 yes I’ll be having it too,

05 Feb 2021 21:16:48
Good stevie and hope you then get the care you need mate.
Its the only way forward for people like you to get treatment early.
Hope thing's are ok with you heaithwise and in general.
Take care and be here.

05 Feb 2021 22:10:46
Ff79 cheers mate, I’m on 6 monthly checks on my jam tart ) so il have to see what happens, still no symptoms, so hopefully the leak will not get any worse, anytime soon, hope you and yours are ok, and all my other sparring partners on here) )

05 Feb 2021 22:47:20
Life carries on stevie.
Ive stopped work as don't think its right that i'm classed as essential.
I put kitchens and bathrooms in.
Could make a fortune if i like .
But it ain't essential and i'm not a money grabber.
Health before money.







 

 

 
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