24 Apr 2024 17:15:06
Remember wenger came from nowhere, changed the whole idea's of the game as a whole, with it's science. For me, and btw f ck off to all those hecklers. Say what ya see. Anyway took over a new era. Wenger could also see players outta position, henry exceptional. From winger to forward. And brought exceptional beliefs in his team as clough/ taylor did. Just approached it differently. This is what i want to see from the owner. For taylors sake you've gambled enough on players. Where did nuno come from? Your usual sh1t from people saying the fans want attacking football. It is football we want reds. But in an honest and horrible way if needs be. Like the old days. I know i know can't get away with it now. But just for me give someone with new ideas and most of all bring trust outta the players. Let them believe in themselves and club. Not the usual predictable sh1t.
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24 Apr 2024 14:19:16
I'm afraid I must repeat myself yet again on here after the Everton fiasco and VAR generally.
Firstly there is a need for VAR ( though not as it's implemented now). The game is much faster now with a culture of cheating and diving such that any ref would find it difficult to officiate using the naked eye. Add on the hundreds of millions of quid at stake. If you don't believe me have a look at YouTube and re run Forests 1959 Cup Final or England at the 1966 World Cup. Also, matches were played at slower pace because of mudbath pitch's, not like the billiard tables of today.
However I entirely blame the Premier League for the present widespread fan dissatisfaction because of their arrogance in not learning from the successful implementation of technology in other sports.
So, Rugby League and Union, a try and if there's doubt the ref will ask the simple question "Is there any reason why I may not award it? " He ( and crucially the crowd on big screens ) will view it and accept the VAR advice. Note, for all to see and hear, in public not in a pokey room in Stockly or wherever. Likewise red and yellow cards.
Cricket likewise. Umpires call for marginal decisions ie leg before is more than half the ball going to hit the stumps? Everyone sees ball tracker on the screen and there's no argument and discontent. Likewise, snicko for faint edges and a catch. Likewise run outs. Incidentally the umpires get it right in the vast majority of cases, perhaps because they are usually retired professional cricketers. Perhaps a lesson there for the Prem and PSGOL?
The point is justice must not only be done, it must be seen to be done.
I would have 3 reviews per team per game decided solely by the onfield Captain in 15 seconds after the refs decision. Retained if upheld, lost if wrong. This would cover red and yellow cards as well as goals, offsides penalties etc.
Also wouldn't it be nice if VAR was allowed to be more proactive. Like, have a look ref.
It's easy really and would have prevented at least 2 if not all 3 of the pens against Everton and perhaps Bolys second yellow against Bournemouth and Madisons punch against Spurs, and Toneys foam moving against Brentford etc etc. Incidentally in Rugby the VAR would even advise the ref how to restart the game ie goal line drop out or 5 metre scrum which would have prevented Liverpools retaining the ball after stoppage of play.
Of course, the Prem could do simple obvious things like instant reds for diving for example and advancing the ball 10 yards for disssent. Also PSGOL, if they weren't actually brain dead could have done a paper sift to prevent VAR being run by a supporter of a rival team. This would have given Atwell some protection and prevented the trouble in the first place. I mean, none of the above is rocket science is it? Doh!
24 Apr 2024 16:35:46
Lot of common sense there Stokey so that won’t get anywhere.
CARLO.
24 Apr 2024 12:22:24
I agree with Skegs and many others below- we have EVERY RIGHT to complain about the abysmal referee decisions this season. What do people want? For us to slap them on their back and blow smoke up their arses telling them how wonderful they are? It’s a shambles and we are the ones suffering WEEK IN WEEK OUT. Enough is enough- I’m behind the club 100%.
24 Apr 2024 12:54:10
So am I!
24 Apr 2024 13:22:48
Just a quick one for skeggs and balloons, in Nottingham there is a local chat room called NEXT DOOR, last Monday someone posted about a person in sneinton who was sun bathing in the nude on Sunday, unfortunately the sun lounger collapsed and the mans testicles got trapped in the loungers mechanism. The fire brigade had to be called and an ambulance attended. I saw the now removed photos on the site pretty graphic. So my fellow reds when the sun shines over the east coast please take care and check your recliner before use. Don’t want any more mishaps do we.
24 Apr 2024 13:53:20
I'm not embarrassed. Teams have complained about the officials forever.
24 Apr 2024 14:37:02
Also, who gives a flying fook what other fans think? Since when has what other supporters say about us mattered? We are the Red Army! Up yours suckers!
24 Apr 2024 16:10:52
Difference is, we had the balls to call them out!
24 Apr 2024 17:04:17
That sounds a load of Boll—— Red Vale
CARLO
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24 Apr 2024 17:10:30
It wasn't skeg's private parts trapped in the recliner Vale, there not big enough but he doe's talk a load of balls 🤣🎈🎈.
24 Apr 2024 17:27:19
How do you know?
CARLO.
24 Apr 2024 18:03:29
It’s absolutely true, Sunday in Nottingham was very sunny, cool wind but if you get out of the way you could take in the sun. I would loved to have seen the firemen’s faces.
24 Apr 2024 11:25:32
If we stay in the Prem or get relegated will Nuno Santo be manager next season and if not who would you want to succeed him
For me Nigel Clough.
24 Apr 2024 11:34:01
Sean Dyche. 🤭🤭🤭.
{Ed025's Note - i will take him to the City Ground in a wheelbarrow if you want him Rogie, an absolute dinosaur mate..
24 Apr 2024 11:40:56
Nuno won't be here at end of season stop up or not.
24 Apr 2024 13:25:20
I’d like to see Nigel but I think he’s on a mission with Mansfield. Possibly mark robbins.
24 Apr 2024 16:36:06
Mark Robbins for me. Done brilliantly at Coventry on a limited budget. When cooper was sacked I wanted Glasner- he’s doing well now at Palace.
24 Apr 2024 07:39:40
{Ed's Note - Lets Be Rational has posted a new article entitled, Has PGMOL turned into an impossible to overthrow dictatorship?
23 Apr 2024 22:02:30
I'm sure I'm not alone on this forum to have friends from all over the country who support other clubs making contact to, basically, take the p. out of Forest's current situation. The latest potential debacle being us squaring up to Sky / Neville. The really sad thing is that I can't defend our club whatsoever.
I actually agree with my mocking friends that our once great club has now become the laughing-stock of the PL. As Norfolk has wisely commented - what a waste of an opportunity our club has made in our promotion to the PL. And the ones that have to suffer this abuse of their loyalty, as usual, are the supporters.
23 Apr 2024 22:19:16
I think the club has relegated itself with their outburst on Sunday. It's all got a bit out of hand really. Especially with the inferred slander. A bit embarrassing from the club. And the officials, mind.
23 Apr 2024 22:50:18
The club have every right to complain just a shame more teams haven't done it it's been a witch hunt on forest for as long as I can remember **** em you go maranakis.
23 Apr 2024 22:58:06
Id say if you read the statement after the game, it probably came from from marinakis son in a moment if anger
Unfortunately it will have big repercussions for the club
Shooting from the hip without thinking.
23 Apr 2024 23:50:34
Exactly Ff. It's wrong and it's embarrassing.
Complain by all means but not like a spoilt petulant child.
24 Apr 2024 00:14:56
But the essence of our problem Skegs is that, despite the crazy money we have spent, our players are not good enough and our management team throughout the club are woeful too. I expect that our great club will be relegated and remembered in the short term by other PL clubs as a whinging, bitter and twisted lot. Rightfully so.
24 Apr 2024 04:56:55
I can only speak of the 2 Merseyside clubs, VAR isn't fit for purpose and we've been shat on. They think we'll still stay up, just. Something needed to be said but maybe it could have been said better.
24 Apr 2024 08:14:12
Let's hope Liverpool (yes them! ) do us a favour for once. and TROUNCE them other cheating lot!
24 Apr 2024 09:00:27
It's a travesty we have been S£## upon we are a laughing stock but deep down a lot of clubs deep down agree with us but at the end of the day it's only football, off today to a funeral of a young friend who died younger than she should have get real people this time next week will be talking of something totally different going up from the championship or another will we stay up and who will be the next manager 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭.
24 Apr 2024 09:27:19
The this is Gazibaldi we are NOT "Spoilt"?
Spoilt indicates that we always get our own way. nothing could be further from the truth mate.
24 Apr 2024 10:09:21
I’m not embarrassed in the slightest, our club has had the guts to stand up and say what everyone outside the sky 6 clubs are thinking, from what I’ve seen on social media, the vast majority of ordinary fans support us, people are sick and tired of the incompetent/ corrupt refereeing, and decision making, if we go down, we go down sticking two fingers up to cheating and corruption, and i don’t see how that can be a bad thing,
24 Apr 2024 10:24:48
Good post Stevie spot on.
24 Apr 2024 10:59:20
In full agreement Stevie stand up to the Premier league bullies
Proud of you Forest👏👏.
24 Apr 2024 11:40:00
I agree with you stevie, we are now the club with balls, now respected by other fans as the rebel club taking on the establishment, relegate us to league 2 if you like, but still have our morals and integrity, hate the premiership, been the worst season since Neil shipperley used to play up too for us.
24 Apr 2024 12:42:39
Bang on stevie, nothing to add to that 👏 🎈.
24 Apr 2024 18:23:43
Agreed stevie son, bang on 👍.
23 Apr 2024 22:02:08
Anyone watch arsenal game tonight? masterclass of football by arsenal.
24 Apr 2024 08:08:41
How could you watch Arsenal Skegs when it was a big night out at the bingo. Ya need to get our of that recliner. 🤣🤣🎈.
24 Apr 2024 11:41:56
Bingo king will be back to show you how it's done 🤣.
23 Apr 2024 18:08:21
Referee for Wolves V Luton is a confirmed Notts County fan. Hackett had all the allegiances and geographical allignment checked before appointments made for games. and then Webb and Riley took over and it has gone to pot. A few weeks back moaning by Birmingham City fans online saw a ref change for their game with Cardiff as ref was a relegation rivals Huddersfield fan. as I understand Birmingham did not contact PGMOL and online pressure alone got ref changed!
23 Apr 2024 17:49:00
I think the Premier league along with the FA hate the truth and will make an example of Forest by giving us the harshest penalty they can which can be a hefty fine and a points deduction
I'm thinking worst case scenario £5m fine and 3pt deduction condemning us to the Championship, people are then saying we will lose our star players MGW Murrilo and Danilo so be it if we get 90m plus 60m parachute payment we will have a good enough squad to come back up if we want to
Players like Panzo Dale Taylor andO'Brien will come back
I say 🖕to the corrupt Premier League and VAR and let's get back to proper football in the Championship.
23 Apr 2024 20:18:44
90m and 60m 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Are we flogging the ground as well 🎈.
23 Apr 2024 21:26:41
Couldn't agree more, and let's not forget the lads in the academy there's one or two that can hold their own and step up.
23 Apr 2024 22:23:22
Good assessment Munmad. Bring-on the Championship.
23 Apr 2024 22:58:50
Lol were 4th from bottom not bottom 3 give it a rest dooners.
24 Apr 2024 08:36:10
I’m not a doomer Skegs I just hate the corrupt Premiership all this adulation for Man City who are also corrupt turns my stomach
The Championship is a level playing field and a proper test of football.
24 Apr 2024 09:00:43
The Championship isn't a level playing field at all, MUNMAD. Parachute payments make it an uneven playing field.
That childish social media outburst has signed us to our relegation doom, Skegs. We will see all those incidents on Sunday given against us from now on. Not to mention the extra points deduction we will get because of it.
24 Apr 2024 11:48:10
Munmad it can’t be a points deduction for bringing the game into disrepute only a fine mate!
23 Apr 2024 11:10:26
You couldn't write the script!
Atwell chosen for VAR at the Euro's and Taylor chosen as a referee😂😂
What a joke and a slap in the face for us
F A and UEFA an absolute JOKE.
23 Apr 2024 13:24:21
Obviously we are not keen on you lot and wouldn’t be too upset if we lose to Luton at the weekend with our depleted squad.
Would love to see MGW sticking his fingers in his ears in the championship.
But have to agree with you on Stuart Atwell being corrupt and a disgrace to football.
The guy is shameless and unrepenting.
Some of the decisions he’s made against Wolves over the years have been unbelievable with disallowed goals and unwarranted sendings off including two sent off in a game against Mboro under Nuno.
Forest are right to question his integrity.
23 Apr 2024 13:44:51
It means nothing who agrees or doesn't it will continue to happen to the so called lower teams until we all stand together and question ⁉️ together.
23 Apr 2024 14:00:01
Michael Oliver in 2022 stated that any football official who has any links with a team, season ticket, families etc., Should not officiate at that game, because of subconscious links to the games outcome.
23 Apr 2024 14:03:27
Any similarities with the penalty at Middlesbrough v Leeds last night. Just a thought.
23 Apr 2024 14:11:31
The louder the noise gets, the more it fuels the fire for change.
23 Apr 2024 14:35:32
We can shout as loud as we like nothing will change, sky sport and the top six will see to that. Sky want the drama while the top teams just want cannon fodder, ITS ALL ABOUT THEM. We don’t count, never have never will.
{Ed025's Note - i agree RV..
23 Apr 2024 14:51:13
Mr wolves MGW won’t be in the championship next season, he will be sold along with Murillo and I hope to god the African whose name escapes me but cost 30 mil. It makes me laugh a player can antagonise a crowd to the point of disorder numerous times during a match, but if a fan should do similar he or she stands to lose their season ticket.
23 Apr 2024 17:10:27
Think you mean that clown Sangare mate.
23 Apr 2024 19:13:57
That's the one.
23 Apr 2024 20:04:17
Red Vale, just look at Jagielka smirking when he defended the officials decisions. 😤.
23 Apr 2024 10:34:34
Just re reading the hasty statement put out by the club immediately following the Everton game. Its talk of "considering options" and being "not acceptable " is laughable really. What options does the club have? Sue Stuart Atwell, go to court to have the points back, replay the match? Ridiculous. The reality is we have no options, we will end up paying the fine ( and perhaps receive a useless apology from the refs). It reminded me of the impotent rage of King Lear, when, duped out of his kingdom by his evil daughters Goneril and Reagan, stripped of his retinue, a former strong King now absolutely powerless issuing empty threat s.
I will have such revenges on you both
That all the world shall. I will do such things
What they are yet, I know not: but they shall be
The terrors of the Earth!
King Lear, Act 2 Scene 4.
23 Apr 2024 10:57:03
Nice qoute Stokey. I suppose many will be pleased that the club is doing something I suppose? Not sure myself yet how this plays out for us. Anyway relevant quote from Lear for you: "Nothing comes of nothing" I thanyou!
23 Apr 2024 11:12:21
Never mind king Lear we have Richard Keys backing us no problem what more do we want 😭😭.
23 Apr 2024 11:13:43
Thanks for putting me right stokey, I though it was Act 2 Scene 5. I'll get straight on that this afternoon.
😎🎈.
23 Apr 2024 11:38:49
Balloons 😂😂😂👍👍.
23 Apr 2024 12:36:35
Norfolk, no I thangyow my friend! 👍👍
Just wondering what the Bard would have made of VAR and its operators……
“Oh brave new world
That has such people in it” perhaps? 🤔🤔.
23 Apr 2024 12:42:28
I think all this huffing and puffing from the Greek is a deflection from the issue of the price hike at the ground.
23 Apr 2024 12:51:37
What about Paul Tierney after the final whistle against Liverpool?
Exit pursued by a ( Greek) bear! 😂😂.
23 Apr 2024 15:28:52
Love that one Stokey! I think maybe our owner needs to calm a little bit and take it easy in his toga on the chaise lounge in the Directors Box, possibly with a bunch of grapes and a 'friend'! That should elicit a comment from Mr Neville!
23 Apr 2024 16:24:27
Just seen on BBC that Forest will be allowed to listen to the audio. This is 24 hrs after the request was sent. Significant? Or not.
23 Apr 2024 19:38:28
By now it will probably sound like an old crackley old WW2 Pathe News Reel!
23 Apr 2024 20:06:42
Audio proves the clowns 'officiating' our game are worthless. 🤦♂️.
23 Apr 2024 23:00:34
They've had 24 hours to put it into morse code 🤣.
23 Apr 2024 10:34:27
If I am correct, Saturdays referee says he saw Young get the ball when tackling Hudson Odi. The ball immediately went to the goalkeeper who picked the ball up. Why did the referee not award Forest a free kick for the back pass?
23 Apr 2024 10:43:08
Sorry. Of course I meant Sundays referee.
23 Apr 2024 10:15:52
I wonder if points deductions and dodgy decisions are all part of the plan to keep the battle for survival as interesting as the battle for the title?
23 Apr 2024 11:17:45
If you want an exciting finish keep you eye on the championship. Never fails to deliver a nail biting finish year after year. Best and most competitive league in the world. I don't half miss it. Getting a good pasting every week isn't my idea of football 🎈.
23 Apr 2024 12:01:25
I would prefer us to be challenging at the top of the Premiership and you have to be in it to achieve that.
The owner has made mistakes I don’t think anyone can deny that. My hope is he reigns in his ego and has the chance next season to move the club in the right direction with an attack minded manager and players that buy into the philosophy and give their all.
I cannot understand why some people want to be relegated to the Championship, seems a very strange attitude but I guess we are all different.
COYR.
23 Apr 2024 14:15:53
💯! Mistakes will be made but to have an owner passionate about staying up and throwing in money is better than the flip side.
23 Apr 2024 15:06:16
Agreed SYDRED.
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