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29 Dec 2018 21:41:30
For all the ak supporters please can you answer why other managers who have been in there positions the same amount of time as ak or less are doing so well and they have bought in a load of new players ect as well ie Leeds derby and so on, I have never managed a football team so maybe someone can enlighten me, I was always under the impression managers did homework on oppositions put together a game plan on the opposition's strengths and weaknesses with his assistants if this is the case why are we playing 4,2,3,1 week in week out regardless of the formation and players we are up against seems so one dimensional, even if it was 2 formations one with the ball one without just some variation to keep opposition guessing I just think his tactics have been worked out step up the pitch stop us passing 100% guarantee will stop us winning.

Red James

1.) 30 Dec 2018 03:43:17
think he's been found out over a lot of things.

2.) 30 Dec 2018 11:27:16
Farke came 14th with Norwich last season and look how they are doing now. We just need a bit of stability, sacking karanka will only disrupt the squad. Give him at least a season. He's won the champions league 3 times as a player and has got a team promoted from this league. With all due respect he knows way more about football than you ever will.

3.) 30 Dec 2018 11:53:46
And where did we finish under karanka last season then after he bought all those players in January too people seem to think this is his first season he has had 2 sets of players with the same win ratio and same carp tactics ? Being a good footballer doesn't make you a good manager so don't care what he has won he was a very good defender is that helping our defence . no, first all his supporters said don't judge till after 12 games then don't judge till Xmas now it's a whole season, I know enough about football too see that 4,2,3,1 isn't working at home yet he can't seem to work it out, pants has been shocking in most games still picked, JC should not be in team week in week out yet he is take those glasses off and see what's wrong in front of your eyes, so you agree with his same plan no matter what were up against

4.) 30 Dec 2018 19:31:06
This has been happening at forest for years though, we under perform and we get a new manager in and we sign new players and we get excited then 8 months down the line it starts all over again and everyones out for blood. Who is better suited to the job? I only mention his playing achievement because He's been at the top of his game and you should show him some respect, not many people in the world can say they've won three champions leagues, as a player I would want to learn from him. I think he gave Fox a lot of confidence. And we have got better at defending imo, the last few months havnt been the best but he's given me more hope than any of the other managers we've had. He arrived at the start of January with an awful squad, we now have depth and experience. Do you really think he is trying to sabotage the team, he wants them to play well just as much as you do. Confidence is massive in this game and having loads of fans moan for a poor dip in form isn't going to help anyone. Yes in a year's time if we are playing the same I will be on your side. I'm young, I've only supported forest since they've been a mid table championship side (Look how many players have moved on as soon as there is interest, we are not the most attractive team in the league) and maybe you've got to get your head out the clouds and accept that that's what we are. Fawaz did not help this club at all and it'll take time for those scars to heal. Patience mate.

5.) 30 Dec 2018 20:00:43
Dertwedge, You can say what you like about our manager but the fact of the matter is managers in most cases get to keep, or lose their job based on results, and league position, especially after spending more money than the club has spent for many a year.

2, i repeat 2 transfer windows and a lot of money later not only are we only 2 points better off this season compared to last season, but we have not won for a while.

The club set a standard with Warburton when they sacked him when we were 9 points away from the play offs, we are 6 points away at the moment.

Should we lose against Leeds, and Derby win then BOOM, the manager will be gone.

6.) 30 Dec 2018 21:42:52
Utter garbage sorry, not once have I disrespected him yes I've questioned his ability as a manager but not as a player but that has no bearing on managerial ability, a dip in form?

Where was the high the majority of games have been unconvincing wins or scraped draws with about 3 games where I've thought wow they were good the team was riding there luck for a while now the luck has run out and the bare bones are exposed please explain to me the progress then 2 points better off than last season still can't defend set pieces still can't score from, still can't break down teams sitting deep or defending well, still the same keeper problem, summer arrivals bar grabban and yacob have been uninspiring I just fail too see a year later a years progress yes rome wasn't built in a day but a more difference is needed simple.



03 Dec 2018 23:37:55
Is all this criticism Worrall gets justified? he was in an awful team zero protection from midfield, mancienne as a partner and silent Smith behind him what chance did the young lad stand I think he would thrive in this side.

Red James

1.) 04 Dec 2018 08:20:11
He's below par,just like Brereton and Walker. A liability.

2.) 04 Dec 2018 08:40:50
And what can you use to make that opinion he hasn't had a chance in good side any defender would of looked bad in that defence is my point one man can't make a defence

3.) 04 Dec 2018 09:57:58
A defender is there to defend the goal, what side he's in is totally irrelevant. Yes in a poorer side he may have to do more defending, but it's still defending and Worrall is just an old school, head it and hit it. He's a liability at the back, his anticipation is poor, always seems 1 second or 2 behind the game. Just like pants, if he's bought back, he will cost us goals and maybe promotion.

4.) 04 Dec 2018 10:02:15
If anything, a defender in a poor team has the chance to shine, be the one to step up and show class, Worrall never did that.

5.) 04 Dec 2018 10:26:52

Absolute rubbish!!!

Poor JW had a useless CH partner and two poor fullbacks and a keeper who didn’t communicate. On top of that he had two useless central midfielders.

What chance did the lad have??!!!!!

Be real. . He needed to come into a good side, a bit like Dawson did when he started alongside Des Walker with Crossley behind him.

6.) 04 Dec 2018 11:12:30
Fox looked bad for three seasons trying to play centre back,all of a sudden a world beaterthis season?🤔
The defence never had the likes of colback Watson geddy or Jacob in front of them.
Worrall will be class and a future captain.
Only as good as the players around you,it's a team game not about individuals

7.) 04 Dec 2018 11:26:33
Ahh echoes of how good Brereton once was in some peoples eyes and how much of a travesty it was that we sold him. 7m doesn't look so bad now though does it. Worrall is no different, he's never shown anything to suggest he's ever going to be any other than a mediocre championship defender. People just have a blinkered vision on home grown players.

8.) 04 Dec 2018 12:24:07
Ok gazza what should we do with appiah?
Sell him quick,because according to some,if they are home grown then they are only ever going to be average at best?
England think different of Worrall and he didn't do too badly.
Too early to write off brereton yet,don't think he made a good career move there.

9.) 04 Dec 2018 13:35:53
I think GazzaRed must've found Joe Worrall in bed with Mrs GazzaRed.


10.) 04 Dec 2018 13:39:04
Surely this is an opportunity for an under 23 player to be on the bench. Good experience. Don't forget, Colback can play at left back as well.

11.) 04 Dec 2018 14:09:41
Worrall is ok and in my opinion is a very good player. Working with Hefele and Robinson beside him to keep him in tune with what he needs to do will be a good prospect. Some of you are forgetting he was made England U21 Captain. You don't get that recognition unless you are a good player. As long as the price was low buying back Olly Burke is a no-brainer; he can terrify defences.

12.) 04 Dec 2018 14:25:26
Personally Worrall would have learned more staying here and learning in training from Dawson,he'd have had a chance to get the team at some point.

13.) 04 Dec 2018 16:15:32
FF799, I'd say it all depends how much first team action he gets at Rangers. If he plays but was 5th choice here then maybe not. I do like the idea of Dawson mentoring him, either second half of this season or next season in the Prem.

Agree with the sentiment above. He hasn't just Captained England under 21s. He has captained an England under 21 trophy winning team hasn't he? Fantastic prospect and red through and through. His detractors are full of bovine excreta.

14.) 04 Dec 2018 16:25:10
When Dawson's not injured, of course.

15.) 04 Dec 2018 16:28:31
Sorry Gazza can't disagree more defence is a unit if your partner is out of position your passed round easily if your left and right back are beaten time and again you can't defend cross after cross find your comment amazing why don't we just play one at the back then and have more attacking players if that's the case

16.) 04 Dec 2018 16:47:42
Just to be clear, Fox played as a left back but always had decent games when asked to cover at CB. Worral would not have got a look in if he stayed here this year, best thing to loan him out.

I remember a young John Terry coming to us for a season, it will do Worral a world of good.

17.) 04 Dec 2018 19:51:38
Appiah actually has some quality. When Worralls back in the team and he's being a calamity and you're all slating him,I'll be the one saying I told you so

18.) 04 Dec 2018 20:31:48
We can all be wrong though gazza,look at Darikwa,totally different player this season,magnificent on Saturday,great shot for the first and great delivery for the last,but his defending has improved dramatically as well.
It's not always how good you are,but about the confidence the team has and how they perform as a unit.
Appiah obviously is a talent,he plays for England and performs on that stage,so did Worrall and was a winner in the process,so they can see the talent,maybe that should be taken on board???

19.) 05 Dec 2018 06:59:06
Michael mancienne played for England.

20.) 05 Dec 2018 18:12:28
Give it up, GazzaRed. You're writing off a 21yo centre-half who has shown promise and it's foolish.

Even if he does turn out to be an average Championship defender, I'd rather have him here as 3rd or 4th choice than some overpaid foreign mercenary.

Lascelles is an excellent comparison. Showed good promise but never really excelled in the Forest first team on a consistent basis and no one moaned too much when he moved on to Newcastle. In his first season at Newcastle he wasn't regular and they were relegated. A few years on, he's back in the Prem and one of the first names on the turn sheet. Patience is required, especially with young defenders. Even more so if they're one of your own.

21.) 05 Dec 2018 20:42:43
Good post SSWE.

22.) 05 Dec 2018 21:23:58
Agree,not sure what the turn sheet is though??or do I??
I'm just glad the lads ok and the doctors have got him "regular" now,must have taken a load off?🤣🤣🤣🤣

23.) 06 Dec 2018 15:27:48
Sorry, should've read 'team sheet'!

24.) 07 Dec 2018 23:56:47
Worrall is as good as Lascelles in my opinion. Better than Wes Morgan was at 21! Digest that fact for a moment.

Morgan has captained a champions league team and Lascelles a Premier league one and neiother were better than Worrall at 21



03 Nov 2018 08:56:55
I see TM wants to use Bereton as a winger lol and the fans are calling the deal a waste of money, some are asking if they can pull out of the deal.

Red James

1.) 03 Nov 2018 18:33:42
Ha ha what a shocker. No thanks, we don’t want him back.



03 Aug 2018 22:06:55
I think we should sign Burke Antonio and Britt 😂.

Red James

1.) 03 Aug 2018 22:24:26
Have you just win the Euro millions?
Or is a Turkish holiday really that cheap?🤣🤣🤣

2.) 03 Aug 2018 22:57:22
To be fair red James the three Portuguese lads look the real deal and they say never look back?

3.) 03 Aug 2018 23:30:29
You might be joking but I'd suggest Burke is available at the right price.

4.) 03 Aug 2018 23:39:33
Could pay in lira would help a lot lol

5.) 03 Aug 2018 23:40:45
But yes they do I was at the Bournemouth game and we looked the prem side and them championship just concerned with Murphy getting the number 9 shirt

6.) 04 Aug 2018 08:10:22
Murphy needs the number 9 bus out of here.

7.) 04 Aug 2018 17:38:33
@Red always: WRONG!

8.) 04 Aug 2018 21:36:04
Murphy has a role to play or AK wouldn't play him. Most fans would welcome the Murphy we saw at the start of last season. Injury and personal issues robbed us of that player. His age and contract will attract unfair criticism, his only escape is to score goals. So well done Murphy, well done AK keep doing what you're well paid to do.👏

9.) 05 Aug 2018 14:22:57

He didn't give himself the contract. We are paying him what we are paying him but that and his personal probs last season don't make him a bad player. I just reckon people have been unfair with him and should give him a break.



27 Jun 2018 12:57:26
Formal offer has made to Daniel Podence.

Red James

1.) 27 Jun 2018 13:09:42
Portuguese Messi

2.) 27 Jun 2018 13:12:02
Who ?. Get Marriott in and get in done and offload Grant if need be

3.) 27 Jun 2018 13:37:30
Marriott is way overpriced just like bambi.
Let some other club take the risk.

4.) 27 Jun 2018 13:44:19
Getting a feeling that Marriott isn't what AK is looking for,I think a proven goalscorer at this level,fingers crossed for grabben

5.) 27 Jun 2018 14:19:25
Soudani medical Friday.
Grabbon hopefully but we defo need another central midfielder. We got Watson bridgcutt.
Geddy not good enough osbourne cash can do a job there but little light weight.
Clayton needs signing. No more overseas players
Got enough. we need championship/prem experience

6.) 27 Jun 2018 14:26:02
Anyone heard anything on Robles?

7.) 27 Jun 2018 14:36:47
Mo Besic please

8.) 27 Jun 2018 15:49:03
Haven't we reached capacity in midfield yet?

9.) 27 Jun 2018 17:20:27
Capacity? Nonsense. Yes we need to sell/loan players. But what do you want the management to do if a better player than we have becomes availably. Bring him in and remove a weaker player or keep the weaker squad?

That is how you strengthen. You bring in better players than you have. Only an idiot would keep what they have and turn down better players.

10.) 27 Jun 2018 17:31:33
Like your post red cyclist.
Very true indeed.

11.) 27 Jun 2018 18:14:41
Roy our now saying Soudani to sign for calgiari

12.) 27 Jun 2018 18:50:04
RedCyclist I am fully aware of the philosophy behind the strenghtening of an existing squad and the commerce that is necessary to facilitate such an endevour, but thanks for reminding me.

13.) 28 Jun 2018 06:21:54
Sgetty May I also remind you that this a rumours page not the banter page.
Sarcastic or condescending posts will be treated with an appropriate manner as such that your post maybe forwarded to the Derby County site for thorough investigation into why you have posted such a post regarding commerce, philosophical strengthening of a football team.
Fwank and Crush candy mel will give you the opportunity to explain your theory to the board to put your example of commerce and strengthening into the new Derby. County Model also known FFP.
You have been warned! 😂😂😂😂😂

14.) 28 Jun 2018 08:16:02
"RedCyclist I am fully aware of the philosophy behind the strenghtening of an existing squad"

So you know I'm right then. Congratulations on actually admitting the obvious truth - that the foremoaners are wrong about bringing in better midfielders is the wrong thing to do!

It's like trying t suck blood from a stone getting people to admit they are wrong on here. :P

15.) 28 Jun 2018 11:42:41
Can't say I've tried to suck blood from anything nevermind a stone?
Care to elaborate red 🚴 😂 😂 😂?

16.) 28 Jun 2018 12:16:57
My blood is red. That's all you need to know. :)




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16 Jul 2019 21:53:18
Are people really going to get upset about losing tonight, there squad value is about triple ours of not more due to champions league money, they have been together longer and SL has had next to no time some of the comments I've been reading our outrageous and half the reason were in a mess give them some time please.

Red James



10 Jul 2019 21:21:33
Currently on holiday in turkey but managed to catch adomahs interview if you take the word hopefully out of it the interview would be about 30 seconds ha ha love the positivity 😂.

Red James

1.) 10 Jul 2019 22:27:30
Well you'll definitely be a red James then.
Enjoy mate and keep turning 😁😁.



28 Jun 2019 22:13:33
Us fans are quick to critsice players and managers I know but without them kicking a ball or managing a game come on let's judge on results, family impatience is part of our downfall it puts owners under great pressure to act, the fact is the last 2 managers played old style boring football that doesn't work in the modern game, JC was exiled under mon and look what happened when he came back, at least this bloke might play football suited to this day and age, is the situation ideal no but let's at least give them a chance before the torches and pitch forks are dusted off again forcing owners into another change please see our lack of patience is part of the problem COYR.

Red James

1.) 28 Jun 2019 22:28:48
Don't be blaming the fans for lack of Patience were not the ones that have hired and fired 3 managers in 2 years 13 in as many lol.

2.) 28 Jun 2019 22:31:30
You are only hoping Mate as we all are, but deep down your not convinced.
We are all forest fans and marinakis is putting the money in and we'll have the stadium and infrastructure, but he's missing the most important ingredient the right manager and let him manage.

3.) 28 Jun 2019 22:32:01

4.) 28 Jun 2019 22:51:06
As much as I hate the quick-trigger-finger modern football economy. Surely we have to at least accept. and at most - embrace the modern way of business football management. There are very successful teams which have almost as much history as us which are achieving their goals and objectives in the modern climate. Although I disagree with this football business model - the only - and I mean only - way we can have a positive input is through our unconditional support. Unless the club is in dire straights then we should be singing the same hymn as the club. because there's one thing I do know. a plan is doomed to fail unless all the resources buy into it. This may not have happened with MON with his "Senior" players. but each chapter had a chance (no matter how small) of succeeding.

5.) 28 Jun 2019 23:34:23
Would you like to enlarge on that?
That user name must have given you sleepless nights and then you come up with "bullucks "?




19 Apr 2019 22:51:44
Want to get others perspective on something this squad was in mix most of the season so it can't be that bad, when were in the top 6 I was reading strongest squad in while, strength in depth ect ect now it's the worst squad ever and needs yet another overhaul yet it's the same players that were looking quite good just needed more time together, so is it bad players or poor tactics and player positioning how can our recruitment be so wrong season after season, is it letting a manager build a squad then changing managers and none of the players suiting the new managers style, I do worry after the last few games mon is a bit route one but without and physical presence and aerial ability needed to play it, I thought hoof ball was dead and buried in the modern game worries me alot.

Red James

1.) 20 Apr 2019 00:00:25
The players haven’t got the fire in their bellies nor the belief in what MON and Roy are doing, we have got an overinflated squad which hasn’t helped and the team selection has been dire at times, in the modern game it’s the players that have the power now and to get the players onside, having dictorial Managers doesn’t work in the modern game and getting them on side isn’t in MON nor Roy’s locker I’m afraid and when they are told that they aren’t good enough they spit there dummies out and don’t play, having an overhaul isn’t going to do us any favours, having a Manager who’s more in tune could still make beautiful music together.
We now move on to another season of hope that one day we see us back in the prem but until then we keep dreaming.

2.) 20 Apr 2019 09:59:17
To be honest demis mon can only choose from what he has got available after seasons end they will sit down with a plan for the future who to sign and who to get rid of if he is given a good budget he can get his own players in who he can trust your right its a thankless task given what power the players have nowdays.

3.) 20 Apr 2019 11:24:59
Demis, I get your frustration but there is quite a lot of supposition in your post which believe it or is stoking fires that simply won’t help the club right now. I’m curios to understand what the next solution could be as you see it because I don’t think the big chair is very appealing at our club - it’s more of an electric chair is it not?

By my reckoning 12 off the last 20 seasons have been spent battling relegation with 3 of them spent on league one. We’ve tried it all, probably more than once:

Young manager with decent lower league record (calderwood), international player in first job (platt) old style manager with promotion pedigree (Megson and Mcliesh), ex England manager (McLaren), club legend (Pearce) perineal scrapper (Cotterill) shoestring manager ( warburton & Freedman), wild card (Davies) , left field foreign manager ((montanier) proven foreign manager (Karanka) . Youth team manager (Brazil & Hart), football purist (SOD).

So where do you suggest we go next ? Remember as well that lots of these were sacked because of the alarming slide towards the trap door.

4.) 20 Apr 2019 14:45:25
Everyone needs to eat humble pie and get Karanka back to finish his project without interference instead of throwing out the babies with the bath water yet again!

The performances since Christmas show he was on the right track with his rebuilding. It won't happen and we now face same old same old for the forseeable future

5.) 20 Apr 2019 15:36:15
Lol red there was no right track and he's gone stop crying he was crap

6.) 20 Apr 2019 15:49:46
Looks like it’s backwards and down wards then red because he ain’t coming back. I think he walked when he realised that we can’t afford to bank roll the project. I think he was asking for more players but in response was asked to play the Portuguese misfits (that were brought for him) more often and he refused. Like derby we gambled on a concept that didn’t work. Time to lower the expectations a bit now as expectations are at the root of most disappointments

7.) 20 Apr 2019 17:33:21
He left because of interference from up stairs, Warburton was doing ok but again interfering old timers wanting a cut on transfers as Warbs had his own people, and the same happened to Billy Davis, there’s the persistent problem, it’s all about money and greed, it’s in the culture of the club going back to the Clough era. That’s wear the change should start, then we can move forward.



13 Apr 2019 18:46:31
Thought the 11 that finished the game looked a lot better than the 11 that started maybe he needs to start with plan b and fall back on plan a lol.

Red James

1.) 13 Apr 2019 19:05:28
Thought it was poor all round,
Never criticise Osborn again at left back after seeing colback play there half way line was his limit.

2.) 13 Apr 2019 19:24:15
11blokes out the crowd would have looked better than the 11 that started

3.) 13 Apr 2019 19:56:44
I’d prefer to analyse lolley and Grabban before Colback if I’m honest

4.) 13 Apr 2019 20:24:54
Lolley and grabban are the best we have,it's the rest where the problem lies

5.) 13 Apr 2019 20:36:46
Ff. Colback is our best midfielder. He's no more a left back than Osborn. It's the manager's fault he played out of position.

6.) 13 Apr 2019 21:21:00
I’d usually be inclined to agree but they had enough chances today to bury the opposition. They didn’t do their job today hence we lose. Blame MON if you want but enough chances were created .




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18 Jul 2019 11:49:26
Dont want jack of all trades master of none we need people good at there position and back up for them or would you like greg halford up front again 😂😂.

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15 Jul 2019 05:07:27
Guessing he will be funding a new striker.

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12 Jul 2019 07:45:39
More to the question why is a Frenchman playing in the Africa cup of nations lol.

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06 Jul 2019 18:09:03
Isn't that the same value as dias lol.

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27 Jun 2019 15:07:47
Or did we have a good enough squad but with the wrong tactics throw in a yet another manager change just food for thought

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16 Jul 2019 16:59:15
Is it a bargain he will be on about 20k so a mill a season a lot to pay someone to sit on the side lines the fact west ham let him go for 750k shows something.

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28 Jun 2019 15:34:08
If the reports are true and the players revolted and refused to play for him due to old school tactics poor training and no homework on opposition teams before games what choice did the Greek have started at the end of last season apparently.

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19 Jun 2019 21:34:46
The Greek league is nothing like ours they have 2 teams as competition so yes he can it as a b team because it runs itself, getting out of the championship takes a lot more money, planning and effort so if he runs us a b team we will never achieve anything

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19 Jun 2019 15:32:19
Sending our duds doesn't make us the b team to me, it shows there is no other way of shifting these players so he is getting them on the olympiacos pay role to free up cash for signings.

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19 Jun 2019 11:22:16
I agree I hope it is a sign that mon is shipping out the croks that don't play because there always injured

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